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My friend tells me the Pope is anti christ?? My friend tells me the Pope is anti christ??

03-25-2010 , 01:37 PM
My friend told me the Pope was anti-christ. I said WTF how do you figure that?
He explained to me that the bible explains in 11 prophecy's the real description of the anti-christ. All of these describe the pope. I watched this video and now its hard to think otherwise. http://www.john1429.org/video/antich...hrist-128.html

-The catholic church murdered over 100 million people who followed the bible
-The Pope has 666 on his hat (Latin number equivalent to the wording on it)
-The roman catholic churched changed times and dates in history of christian events.
-An unrelated friend explained that the catholic church has not much to do with the bible and has broken many of the ten comandments


I say this with no disrespect to any religion but To me it seems like more than overwhelming evidence. Can anybody explain to me otherwise or discredit this info that the pope is indeed not the anti-christ and my buddy is nuts?
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03-25-2010 , 01:42 PM
does your friend (and you) also think 9/11 was a huge conspiracy? I ask because people who believe **** like this are just looking for crazy things to believe in.
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03-25-2010 , 01:44 PM
So are all popes the antichrist, or just the current one? If it's specifically Benedict, why is he the antichrist rather than John Paul II (or how does your friend know it's Benedict and not some future pope who will be the antichrist)? Maybe the video addresses this but I haven't watched it.
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03-25-2010 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
does your friend (and you) also think 9/11 was a huge conspiracy? I ask because people who believe **** like this are just looking for crazy things to believe in.
I think 9-11 is unrelated to this topic. I am unbiased on this topic of the pope and if anything i am more inclined to believe my friends story is a unfathomable. However it seems like more than enough evidence to prove him right. Can you prove him wrong or show points on parts of him being incorrect?
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03-25-2010 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilSteve
So are all popes the antichrist, or just the current one? If it's specifically Benedict, why is he the antichrist rather than John Paul II (or how does your friend know it's Benedict and not some future pope who will be the antichrist)? Maybe the video addresses this but I haven't watched it.
I will ask my friend and re-post but from the feel of the video it seems like all the popes are. I do not know much about religion and not sure if that is possible but that is the feel i got from the video.
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03-25-2010 , 01:47 PM
There are some people who think that the Pope is the Antichrist. The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod puts it in writing.

http://www.wels.net/about-wels/doctr...hrist?page=0,0

Many others just think the Pope is the head of a large group of deluded people who believe in strange superstitions, primarily as the result of Roman, Spanish, Portuguese, and British colonization.
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03-25-2010 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
I think 9-11 is unrelated to this topic. I am unbiased on this topic of the pope and if anything i am more inclined to believe my friends story is a unfathomable. However it seems like more than enough evidence to prove him right. Can you prove him wrong or show points on parts of him being incorrect?
its called google and common sense. If you care look it up yourself.

Just one note, the whole "pope's title = 666" is such a stretch and hilarious that you and your friend believe it so willingly.
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03-25-2010 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
its called google and common sense. If you care look it up yourself.

Just one note, the whole "pope's title = 666" is such a stretch and hilarious that you and your friend believe it so willingly.
The 666 thing is not the only reason behind this thought. Obviously if it was I would say "simply coincidence" The fact is its one thing among many that have cause this thought that the Pope is the anti-Christ. If the 666 thing is in fact true obviously it would not say 666 in big numbers on his hat it would be hidden in a coded message of some sort. Exactly the way it is now.

Its similar to me saying John Smith killed this girl because she was killed in apartment complex x at 11pm and he was in apartment complex x at 11pm. Id say come on thats such a stretch it doesnt prove anything. However what if i said he was in apartment complex x at 11pm, he had a relationship with the girl, the bullets from his gun matched the ones found in her, people heard him shouting from her apartment, she called her mom the day before worried that he would do something dangerous, and his semen was all over her...tad bit overwhelming

All the evidence combined seems way to overwhelming. Im unbiased on this claim about the pope but there seems to be way to much evidence, can you discredit some of these?
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03-25-2010 , 01:58 PM
What about the claim, that the Catholic Church killed 100 million Christians?
This number seems very high.
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03-25-2010 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
The 666 thing is not the only reason behind this thought. Obviously if it was I would say "simply coincidence" The fact is its one thing among many that have cause this thought that the Pope is the anti-Christ. If the 666 thing is in fact true obviously it would not say 666 in big numbers on his hat it would be hidden in a coded message of some sort. Exactly the way it is now.
the 666 is not *hidden* at all. The person is just looking for a way to find 666 in anything he possibly can.

Let me give you a hint, with the way roman numerals are constructed, its very common to have words that form numbers with a lot of 6's in them.

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Its similar to me saying John Smith killed this girl because she was killed in apartment complex x at 11pm and he was in apartment complex x at 11pm. Id say come on thats such a stretch it doesnt prove anything. However what if i said he was in apartment complex x at 11pm, he had a relationship with the girl, the bullets from his gun matched the ones found in her, people heard him shouting from her apartment, she called her mom the day before worried that he would do something dangerous, and his semen was all over her...tad bit overwhelming
wat?

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All the evidence combined seems way to overwhelming. Im unbiased on this claim about the pope but there seems to be way to much evidence, can you discredit some of these?
what *evidence* are you talking about? this is all conjecture and he makes a huge reach on almost every "fulfilled prophecy".

again, if you care, do the research yourself.
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03-25-2010 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
He explained to me that the bible explains in 11 prophecy's the real description of the anti-christ.
Your friend is misinformed. There is no "The Antichrist" in the Bible.

The term "antichrist" is used, but not in reference to a particular individual with a special role in prophecy.

Last edited by Concerto; 03-25-2010 at 02:14 PM.
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03-25-2010 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
What about the claim, that the Catholic Church killed 100 million Christians?
This number seems very high.
Ya that seems crazy at first glance to me as well. I actually just heard of this the other day for the first time. I did some research and found out that between the years of 538 Ad to 1798 Ad the Roman Catholic Church killed millions of christians. Pope Paul in March of 2000 admitted that this was true saying "millions" however the exact number is often debated

That was 1260 years, the Bible explains the "beast" will be in power for 1260 years then not be in power (the church was not in the 19th century). Then in power again (they are now). Another piece of evidence
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03-25-2010 , 02:16 PM
forty-two months = 1260 days = 1260 years

and you are telling me thats not a stretch ...

btw, just to show you how dishonest your friends and others like him are, feel free to read this:

http://www.diesdomini.com/Papers/Q_Prophecy_1798.pdf

basically all they do is take 1260 years, and try to fit something around it. the nicest way i can put it is your friend is delusional.
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03-25-2010 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
the 666 is not *hidden* at all. The person is just looking for a way to find 666 in anything he possibly can.

Let me give you a hint, with the way roman numerals are constructed, its very common to have words that form numbers with a lot of 6's in them.

wat?


what *evidence* are you talking about? this is all conjecture and he makes a huge reach on almost every "fulfilled prophecy".

again, if you care, do the research yourself.
The 666 is hidden because it does not say 666 in plain numbers it says them in a "coded message" All the letters added up equal 666 i do not think any individual letter was a 6 (maybe 1 or 2 at most out of 15ish)

My John Smith example was saying that with only 1 piece of evidence a story can be a stretch and often coincidence but with many pieces of evidence it is hard to discredit something. The same way one piece of evidence claiming the pope is the "anti-christ" may be seen as a stretch or coincidence but the amount of evidence piled up in this case seems concluding.

Of course everything is going to appear as a strech. If this was true do you think the pope would really ride around in a seven headed beast. However it appears to be to many things that can be made out into this being a convinving story
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03-25-2010 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
What about the claim, that the Catholic Church killed 100 million Christians?
This number seems very high.
I am only aware of these two.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananias_and_Sapphira

The others were just enslaved.
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03-25-2010 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
The 666 is hidden because it does not say 666 in plain numbers it says them in a "coded message" All the letters added up equal 666 i do not think any individual letter was a 6 (maybe 1 or 2 at most out of 15ish)
yeah, no individual letter is a 6 BECAUSE THERE IS NO 6 IN ROMAN NUMERALS. There is only:
1, 5, 10, 50, 100, 500 ... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Of course they just ignore the letters that dont correspond to roman numerals. How convenient.

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My John Smith example was saying that with only 1 piece of evidence a story can be a stretch and often coincidence but with many pieces of evidence it is hard to discredit something. The same way one piece of evidence claiming the pope is the "anti-christ" may be seen as a stretch or coincidence but the amount of evidence piled up in this case seems concluding.
sure whatever. unfortunately nothing youve shown is evidence of anything except your friend is delusional and just wants to hold onto tightly any crappy "evidence" that supports his preconceived notions.

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Of course everything is going to appear as a strech. If this was true do you think the pope would really ride around in a seven headed beast. However it appears to be to many things that can be made out into this being a convinving story
if you are going to take this allegorically/figuratively, its easy to make anything sound like its being fulfilled by the prophecy.
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03-25-2010 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Concerto
Your friend is misinformed. There is no "The Antichrist" in the Bible.

The term "antichrist" is used, but not in reference to a particular individual with a special role in prophecy.
Does it use another name such as beast instead, the video shows this in scripture
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03-25-2010 , 02:35 PM
if you are going to take this allegorically/figuratively, its easy to make anything sound like its being fulfilled by the prophecy.[/QUOTE]

Can you find me something else then?
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03-25-2010 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
Can you find me something else then?
no because i dont care enough to do the research to find bits and pieces of data that support a broad and figurative prophecy.

just read this link:

http://www.diesdomini.com/Papers/Q_Prophecy_1798.pdf

it shows what kind of stretches you need to make to believe that 42 months = 1260 days = 1260 years = the catholic church is evil.
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03-25-2010 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
no because i dont care enough to do the research to find bits and pieces of data that support a broad and figurative prophecy.

just read this link:

http://www.diesdomini.com/Papers/Q_Prophecy_1798.pdf

it shows what kind of stretches you need to make to believe that 42 months = 1260 days = 1260 years = the catholic church is evil.
This link is not working, can you send it in terms of a web page
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03-25-2010 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
10 page essay lol, if it takes somebody 10 essay pages to prove something that is already a strecth it makes me wonder
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03-25-2010 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
10 page essay lol, if it takes somebody 10 essay pages to prove something that is already a strecth it makes me wonder
wonder why you are a gullible sheep, or something else?
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03-25-2010 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
does your friend (and you) also think 9/11 was a huge conspiracy? I ask because people who believe **** like this are just looking for crazy things to believe in.
This



Ohh.. and OJ was innocent too.
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03-25-2010 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
Does it use another name such as beast instead, the video shows this in scripture
in history many people called each other antichrist... whats the point... We should beware of the beast ofcourse, but no man is able to prove who is the beast, we need the Holy Spirit for that
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