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My friend tells me the Pope is anti christ?? My friend tells me the Pope is anti christ??

03-25-2010 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Aigyptos
in history many people called each other antichrist... whats the point... We should beware of the beast ofcourse, but no man is able to prove who is the beast, we need the Holy Spirit for that
I think DKnight has this one under control.
He has pretty much dominated this one.
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03-25-2010 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyDiamonds
I think DKnight has this one under control.
He has pretty much dominated this one.
Oh I agree;p
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03-25-2010 , 05:09 PM
From watching the video, I have learned that OP's friend most likely goes to church on Saturday which is the true Sabbath, not Sunday which is the Pope's Sabbath (aka Antichrist's Sabbath).
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03-25-2010 , 06:00 PM
To be the One Anti-Christ you have to teach against the things that Christ says, right? Lead people away from Christ, make yourself to be the Messiah.

The Catholic Church teaches:

Go to Mass each week
Confess your sins
Bible is inspired Word of God
Believe in Jesus, in God, in the Holy Spirit
Abortions, practicing homosexuality, using contraception etc, is immoral
etc...

Many of you may disagree with specifics of these, but does this sound like something the Anti-Christ would say? To lead you toward a moral life and toward Christ? No.

If you say that a Pope will be the Anti-Christ is unscriptural, To say this is Pope Benedict is absolutely ridiculous.

I speculate that the Anti-Christ will be born from the Catholic Church likely from a priest or bishop and a nun who are breaking their vows. For Satan loves to perverse the most holy of things, and priests and nuns are supposedly holy.

I also think that Muslims embody the 'anti-christ' spirit more than any other organized religion right now. The Bible teaches that antichrists are those who don't believe that Jesus is the son of God, which the Muslims do not.
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03-25-2010 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
I say this with no disrespect to any religion but To me it seems like more than overwhelming evidence. Can anybody explain to me otherwise or discredit this info that the pope is indeed not the anti-christ and my buddy is nuts?
Your friend is wrong because there is no such things as the Anti Christ or The Beast.
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03-25-2010 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
Does it use another name such as beast instead, the video shows this in scripture
Unlike the antichrists, the beast is a specific individual. One argument says 666 was Hebrew numerology for "Nero" an emperor of Rome who persecuted Christians. Whoever it was, this "beast" lived in the first century AD, so it can't be the Pope, etc.

Revelation 1:1-3 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.

Revelation 22:6 The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place."

Revelation 22:10 Then he told me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, because the time is near."
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03-25-2010 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerok
I speculate that the Anti-Christ will be born from the Catholic Church likely from a priest or bishop and a nun who are breaking their vows. For Satan loves to perverse the most holy of things, and priests and nuns are supposedly holy.
The father is a priest and the mother is a nun, interesting. Here's an even more perverse idea. The antichrist will be the unnatural spawn of a priest and an altar boy. Sort of the opposite of the immaculate conception. The filthy conception.
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03-25-2010 , 07:22 PM
Whoever the anti-christ is I would doubt he would go riding around on a 7 headed dragon with a 666 beanie. This info would clearly be concealed but if one were to look deep enough would be able to find the true answer.

Aigypots- You say no man is able to prove who is the beast. Has not the bible given us clues for us to figure out who is?


Jerok- The bible has made it clear that the beast will come in the form of a "fake god or religious entity" essentially so people will believe him. from the things the catholic church has done -changing dates and times, persecutions, claiming to be able to forgive sin, it seems to be more related to the prophicies of the anti-christ rather than a religious group.

dnight- I did not read your link since its 10 pages long but ill give you credit and agree with you and say the 1260 thing is a stretch (idk if it is or is not but ill agree with you for sake of argument) but how many different things out you going to see that you say "ya thats true but a stretch" before it becomes evident that it is reality.. 10,50,1000?

Fwiw i do not go to church on saturday and id be interested in knowing if dnight, jerok, aig or evil are catholic?

Last edited by cbax9888; 03-25-2010 at 07:48 PM.
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03-25-2010 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
dnight- I did not read your link since its 10 pages long but ill give you credit and agree with you and say the 1260 thing is a stretch (idk if it is or is not but ill agree with you for sake of argument) but how many different things out you going to see that you say "ya thats true but a stretch" before it becomes evident that it is reality.. 10,50,1000?

Fwiw i do not go to church on saturday and id be interested in knowing if dnight, jerok, aig or evil are catholic?
I am not catholic, so couldn't care less if you want to bad mouth the catholic church.

but you asked us to tell you if these claims are reasonable or not. They are clearly not. Just read the first paragraph of the link I sent. I clearly shows why the "start date" that your friend and his fellow ******s picked is basically random just so they can claim the the period equals 1260 years.

finally, i dont judge a claims truthfulness based on it being a huge stretch for all 100 parts of the claim. Even if a claim has 1000000 parts, each part being weak in itself has no bearing since its very easy to twist something so vague into whatever you want it to be.
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03-25-2010 , 08:17 PM
The "Pope (or Papacy) as Antichrist" idea goes back to the late Middle Ages, and was especially popular during the Reformation, largely as a way to convince people to abandon Catholicism. If the Wars of Religion in the 1500s and 1600s counts as "the Pope" murdering 100 million Christians (Protestants), the figure is still a bit high, but maybe on the right track.

The short end of it is, this is a really old and not particularly original idea. The wonderful thing about Bible "prophecy" is you can find things to make most anything fit. So I'll call bull**** on this idea, but only because as another poster said, the Pope is not the Antichrist because the Antichrist is a fictional character.
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03-25-2010 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
Fwiw i do not go to church on saturday and id be interested in knowing if dnight, jerok, aig or evil are catholic?
I'm an atheist, so I have no horse in this race.
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03-25-2010 , 08:55 PM
1 John 2:18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

1 John 4:2-3 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

2 John 1:7 Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
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03-25-2010 , 10:42 PM
Just to clear some things up a bit for all of you participating in this discussion.

There are MANY ANTI-CHRISTS...its a erroneous teaching that there is specifically ONE.

To make things very simple a ANTI-CHRIST is ANYONE who is against Christ, what he did, what he made available ect...

1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

The word makes it very clear what an anti-christ is.....

2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Those who believe GOD came in the flesh fit into this catagory.........

The word cleary states that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, not God.

What most people mistakingly are referring to when they say anti-christ is the son of perdition.

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


The following explains a little about him........

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2Th 2:5
Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2Th 2:9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Most likely this SON OF PERDITION that is revealed, will be a genetically engineered human, who has great abilities and is engineered in such a way that he can handle all the evil that he will carry, which will be placed in him by the devil.........
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03-26-2010 , 12:12 AM
Sorry. Bill Gates and Microsoft were found to be the anti-christ a long time ago.

http://egomania.nu/gates.html
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03-26-2010 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
My friend told me the Pope was anti-christ. I said WTF how do you figure that?
He explained to me that the bible explains in 11 prophecy's the real description of the anti-christ. All of these describe the pope. I watched this video and now its hard to think otherwise. http://www.john1429.org/video/antich...hrist-128.html

-The catholic church murdered over 100 million people who followed the bible
-The Pope has 666 on his hat (Latin number equivalent to the wording on it)
-The roman catholic churched changed times and dates in history of christian events.
-An unrelated friend explained that the catholic church has not much to do with the bible and has broken many of the ten comandments


I say this with no disrespect to any religion but To me it seems like more than overwhelming evidence. Can anybody explain to me otherwise or discredit this info that the pope is indeed not the anti-christ and my buddy is nuts?
666 was the number you get when you add up all the letters in Nero, which is almost undoubtedly what a first century hebrew would have understood when confronted with the number as a symbol of the mark of the beast. it was Caesar.

the only reason people look for the anti christ now is because they wrongheadedly think jesus is coming back soon, and we should look for signs of the endtimes.

the 1st century jews thought it was the end times.
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03-26-2010 , 04:44 PM
I am curious if anyone else looked at the rest of the site the OP gave.

A few nuggets for you.

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Smart Grid: Trojan Horse of the New World Order?
This is not good! They just put a "smart bubble" on my home 2 weeks ago that can communicate back to the ecletric company how much electricity I use. As the paper outlines, this smart grid technology will allow for the government to ration your energey consumption, including water and gas. I house the servers for the ministry websites in my home. Will they soon prevent the servers from running? Time will tell. Judging by how Rome censors this website now, it's a fair assumption they will pull the cord. That being said.. does anyone have solar panels they need to get rid of? Mar 17 10, 01:03:22

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That's right, they are teaching 10-14 year old girls how to be "hot." What's worse, it's Planned Parenthood doing it with the help of the United Nations! Why? They are drumming up business. No, not for cookies. They need more babies to kill. Satan needs this blood sacrifice from his loyal subjects just like he did on D-Day. Mar 17 10, 02:03:41
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Will Government Healthcare end elections?
Since the healthcare Bill ignored the Constitution so graphically, what would stop them from ending elections? Truth is, they do need a permanent Roman puppet in D.C. for this all to work. Is this plan? Time will tell. I always thought Clinton would do this in his day, now it looks like Obama may be th eman, Or... is the real plan for Roman Catholic Joe Biden to step up? In any event, the mark of the beast just became that much easier for them to enforce, "if" this bill is ratified. Mar 22 10, 06:03:45
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Check out this poll!
WND posted the question, "Is peaceful, civil disobedience ever an appropriate response to government edicts?" As expected it appears over 90% of the people are angry enough to go to civil war. (It was 98% at 2:36 PM today) This isn't good! The government knew this day would come, this is why there are 600 prison camps on US soil now. Please pray they wise up in D.C. before this gets out of hand! Mar 24 10, 02:03:30
Yes, a World Net Daily online poll is surely a great representation of the american people.
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03-26-2010 , 04:49 PM
Does this mean that Obama and the Pope are co-Antichrists?
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03-27-2010 , 03:00 AM
The Church of Google weighs in:

Sorry, I know it's not funny, but it's a dumb topic and I'm drunk.
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03-28-2010 , 11:56 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/28...ivity-midwest/
Updated March 28, 2010
Official: Gun Charges After FBI Raids in 3 States

AP

The FBI conducted weekend raids in three states and arrested at least three people, and a militia leader in Michigan said the target of at least one raid was a Christian militia group.

On its Web site, Hutaree quotes several Bible passages and states: "We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. ... Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment."
Mixing superstition and guns.

Are all our RGT members accounted for?
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03-29-2010 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cbax9888
Whoever the anti-christ is I would doubt he would go riding around on a 7 headed dragon with a 666 beanie.
Don't be so sure...



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