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01-25-2011 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by demoneyez
Well if Darwin was right, where are all the fossils showing these gradual changes? The fossil record really doesn't support much of anything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans

I don't expect you to actually read it though. Prove me wrong.
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01-25-2011 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans

I don't expect you to actually read it though. Prove me wrong.
How do we start to quantify the number of morphological changes required to turn a land dwelling creature into a sea living creature?
50,000?, 100,000?
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01-25-2011 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by demoneyez
I'll admit rize, you're correct on that point, and i thank everyone for taking the time to post answers to my question.
And here's the moment of truth: did you take the time to watch the videos I posted? Did you take the time to read any of the links people have posted in reply to your questions? Have you taken the time to say in even one case that you could have been wrong before jumping to the next topic?

This is how everyone knows that your post in this thread a product of some conglomerate of laziness and ignorance or simple trolling. You'll take time to ask the questions, but aren't willing to take the time to think through the answers. That's called willful ignorance. You are looking for only evidence that confirms your preconceived biases and discarding, without thought, the evidence that contradicts your preconceived biases.
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01-25-2011 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
And here's the moment of truth: did you take the time to watch the videos I posted? Did you take the time to read any of the links people have posted in reply to your questions? Have you taken the time to say in even one case that you could have been wrong before jumping to the next topic?

This is how everyone knows that your post in this thread a product of some conglomerate of laziness and ignorance or simple trolling. You'll take time to ask the questions, but aren't willing to take the time to think through the answers. That's called willful ignorance. You are looking for only evidence that confirms your preconceived biases and discarding, without thought, the evidence that contradicts your preconceived biases.
I did not watch your videos in their entirety, although i did watch segments of each one. I really didn't find anything new in them, but they are good videos.
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01-25-2011 , 09:21 PM
Yes, nothing new...only refutations of every statement and question you've asked ITT...
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01-25-2011 , 09:24 PM
the truth hurts
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01-25-2011 , 09:42 PM
I find it fascinating that there are still people who doubt the theory of evolution in favor of creationism.. just unbelievable...
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01-25-2011 , 09:47 PM
Still, there is little scientific support for the theory of evolution, If Darwin was right, the fossil record should be teaming with examples of his theory. Unfortuantely, it is sadly lacking in most respects. And we're not just talking about the Cambrian explosion.
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01-25-2011 , 09:47 PM
how can you claim that with any honesty when links and videos have been presented, but you refuse to watch them?
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01-25-2011 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
How about you admit you were wrong in 1 area of discussion before quickly jumping to another? People are putting in a lot of time answering your questions, the least you can do is acknowledge their answers and either admit that you were wrong or form some sort of rebuttal before jumping to the next topic.
It's exactly like arguing with a 9/11 Truther.
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01-25-2011 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by demoneyez
Still, there is little scientific support for the theory of evolution, If Darwin was right, the fossil record should be teaming with examples of his theory. Unfortuantely, it is sadly lacking in most respects. And we're not just talking about the Cambrian explosion.
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01-25-2011 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
lolz
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01-25-2011 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by demoneyez
Still, there is little scientific support for the theory of evolution, If Darwin was right, the fossil record should be teaming with examples of his theory. Unfortuantely, it is sadly lacking in most respects. And we're not just talking about the Cambrian explosion.
People have pointed out to you how rare and difficult it is for a fossil to be created.

People have pointed out to you that despite the rarity of fossils, there are still plenty of examples of transitional species. In fact, more and more get found every year.
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01-25-2011 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by demoneyez
Well if Darwin was right, where are all the fossils showing these gradual changes? The fossil record really doesn't support much of anything.
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[ ] the fossil record supports your view
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Still, there is little scientific support for the theory of evolution, If Darwin was right, the fossil record should be teaming with examples of his theory. Unfortuantely, it is sadly lacking in most respects. And we're not just talking about the Cambrian explosion.
I feel we are going in circles.
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01-26-2011 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by demoneyez
Still, there is little scientific support for the theory of evolution, If Darwin was right, the fossil record should be teaming with examples of his theory. Unfortuantely, it is sadly lacking in most respects. And we're not just talking about the Cambrian explosion.
On the contrary, there is a staggering amount of scientific support for the theory of evolution. Absent a single fossil, evolution would be one of the best supported scientific theories.

The more interesting question about fossils is: why, after millions upon millions have been found, do they fail to disprove evolution?
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01-26-2011 , 01:16 AM
demoneyez, do you realize that almost all of your posts in this thread can be summarized as "No, ur wrong." There is very little to nothing in the way of actual challenges against evolution. All you have done is asked questions that do more to reveal your ignorance than they challenge the theory or post basic "ur wrong" posts with virtually no reasoning behind why we are so wrong.

What you are doing here is basically no different than if I struck up a conversation with a priest at your church and in response to every ****ing thing he says, I in turn say "No, actually ur wrong. Everyone knows ur wrong deep inside, we all know it."

Is this productive for you?
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01-26-2011 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by demoneyez
@ rize - Darwin's Theory of Evolution is nothing more than an amusing series of 19th century anecdotes. It shouldn't even be regarded as a theory.
Isn't the Bible just an amusing series of first century anecdotes?

I literally LOL'd at "a series of hunches". Pretty damn impressive hunch.
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01-26-2011 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by demoneyez
Not at all...give me one example of one speices turing into another
One species doesn't just turn into another, and nobody is suggesting that they do.
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01-26-2011 , 12:49 PM
I personally think demoneyez is pulling off one of the more elaborate levels ever attempted on this forum. Nobody is really that dumb.

And if by some chance he really is this dumb, then it's a waste of time trying to educate or reason with him. Either way, this guy should be banned either for trolling, or just sheer stupidity. He has nothing to contribute here.
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01-26-2011 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
I personally think demoneyez is pulling off one of the more elaborate levels ever attempted on this forum. Nobody is really that dumb.

And if by some chance he really is this dumb, then it's a waste of time trying to educate or reason with him. Either way, this guy should be banned either for trolling, or just sheer stupidity. He has nothing to contribute here.
I actually don't think its that elaborate. I kind of think its rather obvious. Especially since he's trying to appear ignorant but knows too many key phrases to be as ignorant as he appears.

I agree its a waste of time.
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01-26-2011 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by demoneyez
Still, there is little scientific support for the theory of evolution, If Darwin was right, the fossil record should be teaming with examples of his theory. Unfortuantely, it is sadly lacking in most respects. And we're not just talking about the Cambrian explosion.
dumb dumbs ITT
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01-26-2011 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kurto
Especially since he's trying to appear ignorant but knows too many key phrases to be as ignorant as he appears.
You dont need to know anything to be able to copy & paste from the 'how to beat evolutionists' section of creationism.com.

He's not a level imo but it doesnt matter. There's no point in discussing creationism either way.
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01-26-2011 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BASaint
He's not a level imo but it doesnt matter. There's no point in discussing creationism either way.
So you really think someone could be THAT thick? Why would he come to a forum filled with educated people and try to pass off such BS?

What I'd like to see, is for him to take this to the SMP forum. I wonder how long they'd put up with him? Seriously... I for one, will make one or two attempts just in case a guy is genuinely trying to learn something. If he persists on being a blithering idiot after that, I just ignore.
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01-26-2011 , 02:37 PM
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So you really think someone could be THAT thick? Why would he come to a forum filled with educated people and try to pass off such BS?
Jib was as thick as demoneyez when he first started posting in RGT/SMP but has slowly come around over the last 3 years. As far as I know, he's not a level. People like demoneyez definitely exist.
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01-26-2011 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
If America came from Great Britain, why does Great Britain still exist?
QFLOL
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