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Most people believe in God, but they do not live by it. Most people believe in God, but they do not live by it.

08-08-2010 , 04:22 AM
This thread is to discuss the fact that most people on this earth are God believers but do not live by His Word.

I understand that there is a % that believe His Word has been tampered with to the point it shouldn't be followed But by my experience, His Word is 100% true, and there is much more we are to learn that is outside of His written Word. IDK if that makes sense to a lot of the people on this forum.

I also understand there is a % that claim to believe in God but don't truly believe in God. These people just basically choose to live a lie for some reason, and pretend they believe in God because they believe that believing in God is the right thing to do. Go figure.

I think that these % of people paint a bad picture on religion and basically have a mob mentality that ends up doing negative things that go against His Word. In which case, results in all these horrible things that lead to internet forums full of threads basically saying religion is the downfall of society. This isn't really the main focus point of this thread. But this is:
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This thread is to discuss the fact that most people on this earth is God believers but do not live by His Word.
As a person that knows God exists 100%, these things really bother me.
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08-08-2010 , 04:34 AM
I don't fully understand, but I daresay you'd say I was one.

I make no apology for thinking the bible means something different than what you think it means - not much I can do about that.

I confess that I sometimes do things counter to what I think God wants me to do - hard to sidestep that, though I think I'm better now than I used to be.
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08-08-2010 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bunny
I don't fully understand, but I daresay you'd say I was one.

I make no apology for thinking the bible means something different than what you think it means - not much I can do about that.

I confess that I sometimes do things counter to what I think God wants me to do - hard to sidestep that, though I think I'm better now than I used to be.
I completely agree with you that the Bible cannot be correctly interpreted by just anybody. I don't believe His Word is something to be understood correctly by anyone who chooses to believe at any given point in time. Heck, i have known He exists for a few years now but can't claim that i am able to accurately interpret His Word 100%. I believe He shows us what He wants us to know when we learn the lesson behind it, and that is a huge part of having a personal relationship with God.

You don't have to apologize to anyone but yourself. If God exists, His Word is 100% true, and in His Word, the kingdom of God belongs to children, and by the child's sins, they are separated. This is all in His Word. Not saying i am 100% correct in what i believe He is trying to tell us, but i believe that all people are meant to make mistakes regarding it.

From my experience from turning back to Him, the only things that have held me back is the lack of believing things in His written Word, which could also be classified as lack of faith. I cannot help that either, but i am getting better at that the more i see His written Word is true.
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08-08-2010 , 04:54 AM
Most believe in belief in God
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08-08-2010 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
Most believe in belief in God
Feel free to go into detail because by the looks of it you are just dittoing something i already claimed in this thread.
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08-08-2010 , 05:18 AM
It's kind of the opposite of what you claimed, people think religious belief is good for society; not that God exists.
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08-08-2010 , 05:56 AM
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08-08-2010 , 06:48 AM
You do not know 100% that God exists.
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08-08-2010 , 06:52 AM
I know 100% that i have an invisible parrot flying in my house, you can't touch it and it doesn't make any noise either. You can't prove me wrong.
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08-08-2010 , 09:45 AM
Gunth, there are two things that bother me about your post, the first being that in order to believe in god, you must believe in a christian god that is present in the christian bible, which is way off to me, I think its highly possible and acceptable and possibly even more pure for someone to believe in a god with no specific creed. By believing in god without the influence of a religion, the knowledge is completely personal and not tainted by the hands of other men. Is this not a more pure and true way to believe in god than following the teachings of a book that was highly tainted by King James?

Secondly, if the bible is meant to be gods word and is misinterpreted hundreds or thousands of different ways, why would god not, in his infinite ability to do anything, update his word to prevent missinterpretation? Does he enjoy the in-fighting, the wars, the constant attempts to appease him by interpreting his word "correctly"?
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08-08-2010 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Butcho22
You do not know 100% that God exists.
Yes i do, and there is never any doubt.
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08-08-2010 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by always_sunni_
Serious about what?
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08-08-2010 , 11:58 AM
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Is this not a more pure and true way to believe in god than following the teachings of a book that was highly tainted by King James?
Can you show us how it was tainted? I have read a lot of the KJV and it is saying the same thing as any other Bible i have compared it to.

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Does he enjoy the in-fighting, the wars, the constant attempts to appease him by interpreting his word "correctly"?
I think He makes it pretty clear that we are not supposed to fight or have wars. Unfortunately people can be that dumb.
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08-08-2010 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
I also understand there is a % that claim to believe in God but don't truly believe in God. These people just basically choose to live a lie for some reason, and pretend they believe in God because they believe that believing in God is the right thing to do. Go figure.
And I think this is the key notion. Most people claim to believe in God (in America this generally means the God of Christianity). But they don't live as you'd expect them to live if they actually believed in God, and in the teachings of the Bible. Solution: Most of them don't actually believe, or if they do they don't take it at all seriously. They just go through the motions to fit in (on Sunday) and otherwise compartmentalize religion in a tiny, rarely opened box so that its separate from everything else they do in their lives.

True believers wouldn't be very interested in worldly matters. They'd be much more focused on the afterlife than on this life, and they'd stand out like a sore thumb. Think of all the worldly stuff people focus on (religious and non-religious people alike), and think of how irrelevant most of it is to one's salvation according to Christianity.
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08-08-2010 , 12:29 PM
Gunth... you can't live 100% by the word of God. That would make you perfect and we are not.
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08-08-2010 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Thijs908
I know 100% that i have an invisible parrot flying in my house, you can't touch it and it doesn't make any noise either. You can't prove me wrong.
Explain how this is relevant to the discussion itt.
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08-08-2010 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Thijs908
I know 100% that i have an invisible parrot flying in my house, you can't touch it and it doesn't make any noise either. You can't prove me wrong.
But I can commit you.
Also, what ganstaman said. Stop trolling.
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08-08-2010 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
Explain how this is relevant to the discussion itt.
it's relevent because OP's beliefsystem is flawed so the point he's trying to make is too
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08-08-2010 , 01:40 PM
the majority of people on this earth do no believe in the christian god.
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08-08-2010 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Thijs908
it's relevent because OP's beliefsystem is flawed so the point he's trying to make is too
Explain how if we accept that "OP's belief system is flawed" his argument becomes any less valid.
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08-08-2010 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
Explain how if we accept that "OP's belief system is flawed" his argument becomes any less valid.
don't feed the troll, you'll only end up derailing the thread
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08-08-2010 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
As a person that knows God exists 100%
Belief is not knowledge.
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08-10-2010 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Butcho22
You do not know 100% that God exists.
I'm sure he does. It's just that he 100% knows things that are wrong.
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08-10-2010 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilSteve
And I think this is the key notion. Most people claim to believe in God (in America this generally means the God of Christianity). But they don't live as you'd expect them to live if they actually believed in God, and in the teachings of the Bible. Solution: Most of them don't actually believe, or if they do they don't take it at all seriously. They just go through the motions to fit in (on Sunday) and otherwise compartmentalize religion in a tiny, rarely opened box so that its separate from everything else they do in their lives.

True believers wouldn't be very interested in worldly matters. They'd be much more focused on the afterlife than on this life, and they'd stand out like a sore thumb. Think of all the worldly stuff people focus on (religious and non-religious people alike), and think of how irrelevant most of it is to one's salvation according to Christianity.
Yeah, if you were sure that sometime in the next 100 years you would be transported to some place of infinite joy (or whatever heaven is) for eternity, why would you ever get upset about anything?
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08-10-2010 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Raker
Yeah, if you were sure that sometime in the next 100 years you would be transported to some place of infinite joy (or whatever heaven is) for eternity, why would you ever get upset about anything?
It depends on what your understanding of God is. If you believe God objects to injustice, and your desire is to align yourself with God, then you should also object to injustice (wherever and whenever it happens).

The worldly matters/afterlife dichotomy is a bit of a strawman.
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