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03-31-2010 , 09:53 AM

Mark H

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...cover-moral-co

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03-31-2010 , 11:08 AM

dknightx

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...d-magnets.html

better link

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03-31-2010 , 11:39 AM

MattUNCC

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WNYC RadioLab actually did an episode that discussed this very experiment.
http://blogs.wnyc.org/radiolab/2009/...ing-the-world/

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03-31-2010 , 11:47 AM

Arouet

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Wow, pretty cool if it can be reproduced. I hope they double blinded.

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03-31-2010 , 12:21 PM

Jibninjas

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As I posted in SMP, what does this show that we don't already know? Alcohol also influences morals, was no one aware of that either?

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03-31-2010 , 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jibninjas

As I posted in SMP, what does this show that we don't already know? Alcohol also influences morals, was no one aware of that either?

100% sure you didnt read even the first sentence from the link

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Scientists have discovered a real-life 'moral compass' in the brain that controls how we judge other people's behaviour.

its not about our own actions, but how we view others

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03-31-2010 , 01:39 PM

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its not about our own actions, but how we view others

my point still stands

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03-31-2010 , 03:46 PM

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my point still stands

i think the overall point is that morality stems entirely from our brain, and its faculties.

many theists will say that morality is beyond scientific understanding, as well as beyond the bounds of merely the physical.

but if morality can be swayed by magnets around our brain, and alcohol swimming in our brain, isn't it now safe to say that morality is really just a construct of the human brain?

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03-31-2010 , 03:51 PM

madnak

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Yeah, I'm not as impressed with these as with studies that show generation within the brain. I mean, it's very neat and exciting.

But there is no problem for dualism if affecting the brain affects the mind. We don't need a conduit for that (or the conduit can be mental rather than physical). The problematic (falsifiable) claim in dualism is that the brain can be affected by the mind. In order for the mind to affect the brain, there has to be a physical conduit through which it does so.

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03-31-2010 , 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dying Actors

but if morality can be swayed by magnets around our brain, and alcohol swimming in our brain, isn't it now safe to say that morality is really just a construct of the human brain?

nope

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03-31-2010 , 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hainesy_2KT

nope

agreed.

it was safe to say this long before this particular study.

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