Mean IQ vs Religiosity graph - Page 3 - Religion, God, and Theology

The average IQ for sub-Saharan Africa is 70, the lowest globally. Afro-Americans and Afro-Caribbeans exhibit a varied white genetic loading which raises the average in both cases to 85. Specifically, various African countries’ IQ is as follows: Congo (Zaire) – 68;Congo (Brazzaville) - 73; Ethiopia - 67; Ghana – 62; Nigeria – 69; Sierra Leone – 67; South Africa – 72; Sudan – 72; Tanzania – 74; Uganda – 73; Zambia – 75; Zimbabwe – 70; and Egypt – 83. In comparison IQ for more developed countries is: Thailand – 91; Japan - 110; China – 98; Malaysia – 92; South Korea – 106; Singapore – 103; Cuba – 85; India – 82; Israel – 90; Mexico – 88; Philippines – 86. The IQ mainly for whites is: Australia – 99; Belgium – 99;Canada – 97; Czech Republic – 99; Germany – 103;Ireland – 87; France – 97; Finland – 98;Italy – 103; Netherlands – 100; New Zealand – 101; Poland – 92;Romania –94; Spain – 96; Switzerland – 101; U.K. – 100; and U.S. – 98.

http://www.africanexecutive.com/modu...hp?article=296

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01-22-2009 , 03:18 PM

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Uhh this graph looks very suspect. The mean IQ of Angola is 69? So they are on average mentally ******ed?

Nice try

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01-22-2009 , 04:10 PM

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Ireland – 87

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01-23-2009 , 02:00 AM

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what good has come from the creation of atomic weapons.

what like world peace among superpowers? or nuclear power plants?

what's more likely? getting killed today by a super high tech death machine or getting clubed over the back of the head in the dark ages?

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01-24-2009 , 02:15 PM

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Wow I didn't know that at all. I wonder if the IQ difference is caused by nutritional differences, cultural differences in what the test measures, genetic differences, or something else.

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01-24-2009 , 04:05 PM

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Any half-decent IQ test is culture-neutral, so unless the data is terribly flawed that shouldn't be the issue.

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01-24-2009 , 06:49 PM

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Any half-decent IQ test is culture-neutral, so unless the data is terribly flawed that shouldn't be the issue.

That assumes that cultural factors don't affect actual intelligence, and I'm not convinced of that. Certainly nutrition and similar factors can have an effect.

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01-24-2009 , 07:01 PM

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That assumes that cultural factors don't affect actual intelligence, and I'm not convinced of that. Certainly nutrition and similar factors can have an effect.

I thought he was implying that the tests might be biased and I agree withyour post.

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01-25-2009 , 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn

too much alcohol

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01-25-2009 , 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trogdor!

eventually they will be used. bio-chemical weapons are already being used. the threat of nuclear attacks hasn't made this place any safer.

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01-26-2009 , 01:05 AM

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Well OP's graph at least demonstrates the obvious truth: God is really popular in the States.

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01-26-2009 , 03:44 AM

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Any half-decent IQ test is culture-neutral, so unless the data is terribly flawed that shouldn't be the issue.

Actually extremely few IQ tests are culture-neutral, they are usually weighed for each culture/country they are to be used in.

Actually these numbers are almost guaranteed to come from the "IQ and wealth of nations books" which used unweighted IQ tests, extremely poor method (it even contains mean IQ for countries where no scores were available, too give a hint of how bad it is) and is generally a horrible book for anything but starting a fire.

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01-26-2009 , 09:11 AM

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Doesn't matter of the test completely is unfair and isn't an accurate example. There is plenty of other evidence to this claim.

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01-26-2009 , 10:42 AM

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too much alcohol

That's crazy talk. Probably brought on by lack of alcohol.

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01-26-2009 , 01:05 PM

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Wow I didn't know that at all. I wonder if the IQ difference is caused by nutritional differences, cultural differences in what the test measures, genetic differences, or something else.

Nutritional differences are a huge factor here. Probably 75% of it.

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01-28-2009 , 07:41 AM

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Well let me give you a real answer then - I am not sure. I know a grown man with autism and the mind of probably a 10 year old. He is pretty freaking happy. He is a devout LDS, lives on his own, pays his own bills (obv his mom helps out here and there), and is pretty independent. From what I can tell he is happier than most people I know. But it is more of a lack of understanding that contributes to his happiness, not a lack of intelligence - imo. So i guess it really goes back to ignorance. Maybe ignorance is bliss and they are happier. But I think once you can grasp knowledge and what it means - you're screwed. So to answer your question - ******s are happier than geniuses imo. Other than that - smart>dumb

In a world where happiness is so ardently and intensely pursued, yet rarely attained, one has to question whether or not the pursuit of this state called happiness is actually worth the costs? Would the person already at this state be able to effectively convey an idea of it to somebody who is of a higher knowledge and understanding and themselves? Is it even possible to describe it? I would think we all have our own unique description of it, even though it may more or less converge and overlap at certain points.

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01-28-2009 , 04:48 PM

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In a world where happiness is so ardently and intensely pursued, yet rarely attained, one has to question whether or not the pursuit of this state called happiness is actually worth the costs?

Or even whether the pursuit of happiness is the likeliest path to happiness.

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01-29-2009 , 08:47 AM

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We had a thread in SMP a while back where they had an IQ graph against various christian sect. Showing a coorelation againt literalism, anybody want to find and post that as well?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/47...m-data-212900/

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01-29-2009 , 08:53 AM

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Also, as with the other thread I posted, I don't think these graphs demonstrate causation between low IQ and theism. I think such a causation does exist, but that it is too weak to account for this correlation. I think the correlation is due to both theism and low IQ being caused by poor education standards and several other factors.

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02-05-2009 , 03:24 AM

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Or even whether the pursuit of happiness is the likeliest path to happiness.

Touche.

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02-05-2009 , 08:06 AM

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too little alcohol

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02-05-2009 , 08:08 AM

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Dead on

Its why fundementalist societies are against education. The people aren't stupid and if you educate them they will soon realise that fundementalism is blither.

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02-05-2009 , 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by James 2:14

what good has come from the creation of atomic weapons.

Atmoic power powers hospitals to heal the sick, street lights so you can drive safetly, the mills that smelt the steel used for the chair you are sitting on, power your laptop/PC, run the water through your pipes and clean it later on. It does all this cleanly and cheeply.

Besides that, nuclear research has done other wonders.

You can use a spoon to kill a person, it doesn't mean it's a useless tool.

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02-05-2009 , 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by James 2:14

the graph is very interesting. it would indicate a pattern that those with a higher iq are less inclined to be religious. my question is, is it better to be smart or dumb?

Just a little bit:

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Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
Romans 1:22

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Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise.
I Corinthians 3:18

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Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?I Corinthians 1:20

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02-05-2009 , 07:13 PM

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ok.........................................that proved what

you're quoting from a book that nobody believes in and hoping we take what it says and apply it here? How does that make sense?

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