Are you programmed to read only what you are capable of processing? Some of you are unreal. This is the first line of my first post ITT:

And, for the record, just in case you didn't know (likely), this topic isn't exclusive to the Bible.

For the same reason why atheists are not banned yet.

But if they banned non believers then believers would have to go back to the old stand by of condemning each other. What fun would that be.

all atheists are non believers.

all non believers are atheists?

If they were criticizing the bible i dont think that would make much difference. Ban em all...

True.

They would not want to ban all logic and reason from this place.
Correcting those that think badly is quite a good goal and recognized as such by the powers that be.

All so called believers should thank them profusely. They have your good mental health at heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDbesQQi9yc

Keep up the excellent work moderators.

Regards
DL

Besides the LOL above (I was describing how not to have a government, and was 180% from Communism, LOL). Oh wait, I will LOL -- you really shouldn't tell other people you are more "complex" than them, LOL. Don't you believe in things that cannot be proven? LOL. No, seriously think about it... LOL

But since you obviously take it that people always need to have a leader/follower relationship then...

1. What about the other 3 examples I gave, two randos, a family, a group of friends?

2. Is it a matter of faith with you that people need a master? And where does that leave the masters?

3. Back to your hypothetical, you have told me twice that a "soul" would be making a "mistake" by not submitting. Well souls make mistakes all the time. And you can't really blame a soul for trying (well maybe you can). If you are a slave you have nothing to lose... so what happens in the afterlife if some souls tried to defend themselves? If they didn't care about the consequence (perhaps crazily). If that was just their "soulish" nature? If that was their exercise of their free will, regardless of how foolish?

I do not recall such word, get the quote. I am absent minded but do not think I would say such.
Also, you cannot know if souls make mistakes in heaven. In fact, in the heaven I know, that is not possible.

Regards
DL

Very good. Well in #1 I was thinking of a "desert island" situation. And #2 you are giving me your opinion of the real world, not the world of your hypothetical. Thank you for clarifying in #3 that "souls" have no free will in the the hypothetical after life. So in your hypothetical, we are slaves in heaven and on earth... which is OK, but doesn't seem very interesting or even make whole lot of sense to talk about further.

But that is one of the things that is really hard to understand about some of you People of Faith, if it is already "Game Over" before you even start, like in your hypothetical example of no free will, then what the heck are you debating about with each other? And I know the Christian religious tradition does include open warfare in their heaven (just not the Paradise Lost version I know of), why not again?

But I wish you the best sir! Take care, and I will leave your thread in peace now.

I am not one of those "People of Faith"

I think that faith withut facts is for fools and I note that you have faith in your political theory without any facts to go with it and like most theists, you ignore all the history that shows your theory to be unworkable.

As I said, you do not even have a demographic shape to show and without it, you are bound to never have a good theory to sell as all these systems must have one.

I do encourage you to try though. Who knows you may have something.

Regards
DL

Criticizing people's personalities (insult) is different from criticizing the Bible.

You said.

Which now must mean all atheist insult peoples personalities. Interesting.


Good luck in life.

Christians are people. Yes all atheists insult Christians in a debate.

Not true. But are you for banning all that use personal insults. Because you used one by making fun of a micro stake player. Also the bible personal insults me by saying im a wolf, snake and fool. So that should probably be banned too.

But ok anyway, ban all atheists.

Even Jesus with his---love the sinner and hate sin.---could not do so.

You will note that at the judgment, it is the sinner that he consigns to hell and not the sin.

This proves that he himself does not follow his own rule.

You should also be bright enough to know that divorcing the sin from the sinner is--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHj0dtSwxqQ

Regards
DL