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Love that comes from belief - the most importnat love. Why? Love that comes from belief - the most importnat love. Why?

06-30-2010 , 02:42 PM
Question that I am having for today is something I don't think I can really comprehend: why does believing seem to be such an important trait to God - much more important than knowing (both knowing and believing obviously in a relationship to the existance of God)?

if we look at this issue in a context of what seems to be the most (or at least very) important to God - his children's love towards him - then the best way for him to claim that love would not be through people's belief, since only a minority of people believe, but through people's knowledge. For example, I will probably never believe in God, if evidence for God stays the same. But if God or some of his assistants came into my room and start talking with me (or interacting in any way), there is a big chance I would start to love him, assuming he is a very lovable entity. Even Christians' already existant love towards God would probably benefit in a major way if he was to start interacting with them in some way.

This wouldn't mess with our free will to reject or accept him, since God haters would still be able to make a free will choice to hate him.

So, if one of the God's biggest desires is as much freely willed people's love as he can get, then relying on people's belief is clearly not the best way to go about it. I suspect any of us would agree that he would get much more love if people knew he exists.

So obviously, sheer amount of free-willed, genuine love towards himself is not what is most important to God. There must be some other attributes of love that he values higher, and these attributes of love are obviously connected to some attribute of belief - an attribute which remains unknown to me. This attribute has to be more important than intensity and genuinity of love - both produced in higher quantities by a love that comes from knowing than by a love that comes from believing (anybody doesn't agree with that?)

One point on which I think we will all agree, is that God prefers love from believing over love from knowing. But I can't think of a good explanation of why that is so. Does this preference of God seem sound with you (which of two mentioned loves would you prefer if you were in a position similiar to his)? Do you have any explanations of your own or does maybe there exist an established explanation?

Last edited by gg911gg; 06-30-2010 at 02:52 PM.
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06-30-2010 , 02:45 PM
Because as obviously God doesn't just come down and show himself, any hypothesis that God is loving must be based on faith rather than knowing?
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06-30-2010 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
Because as obviously God doesn't just come down and show himself, any hypothesis that God is loving must be based on faith rather than knowing?
This probably relates to my first paragraph which said:

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Question that I am having for today is something I don't think I can really comprehend: why does believing seem to be such an important trait to Christianity
I now changed it to:

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Question that I am having for today is something I don't think I can really comprehend: why does believing seem to be such an important trait to God
Thats how it was supposed to be, but I made a mistake.
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06-30-2010 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gg911gg
This wouldn't mess with our free will to reject or accept him, since God haters would still be able to make a free will choice to hate him.


No they wouldn't.
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06-30-2010 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Chuck
No they wouldn't.
Do you think his presence would make such a strong effect on us that would disable our free wil in a way that it wouldn't be possible to hate him anymore?

Assuming this is true, solution for him would be to show up in front of us in such a way or in such a form that wouldn't cause our free will to malfunction.
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06-30-2010 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Chuck
No they wouldn't.
There are people in the bible who knew God and hated (did not accept) him.
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