Hey, the Bible doesn't say anything about doing Heroin. Will God be cool with my H problem? Cuz it's totally his fault he didn't expressly enumerate it as something that "violated his will" and being the good Christian I am, I never deviate from the bible. So I'm gonna go snort some H, play some poker, and masturbate to some Internet gag-porn before beating my biblically sanctioned slaves to within an inch of their lives. But don't worry, I'll make sure they "survive a day or two" after the beating so that I won't have violated God's will!

Christians doing their best to make sure evil wins.

This doesn't sound like you've been born again. How can you claim to be a good Christian if you haven't been born again and worked consciously at separating yourself from sin?

It's a growth problem.

You have to come out of evil to be able to deal with evil.

But when you do that you can't forget crucifying the old man is daily work or the evil surrounding you on a daily basis could re-envelop you.

Being a Christian is always a risky endeavor. But the most risks usually come with the greatest rewards.

cf. Philippians 1:6

Bible doesn't say anything about any of these things, and when I pray to God, he says "it's kewl, bra". But idk, I might be hallucinating from all the illicit drugs I've been doing because the Bible doesn't tell me what not to do enough.

The problem is that you require data that you don't have. You don't know what % of runaways who travel at least X miles do not return.

You study the fruit of the spirit. One of the characteristics of it is self-control. Rx could interfere with you learning that.

Study up on pharmakeia which iirc is mentioned in the Book of Revelation and God bless you.

Strong's on pharmakeia:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/...gs=G5331&t=KJV

Beating my slaves still cool tho, right?

And what if, as I'm praying to God, I am guided to do as much Heroin as I want?

For the believers, here's an interesting testimony I watched recently:

The Call

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4XVI2Uk8vM&feature=plcp

This guy's God sure is a dick...

Also, God sure sucks at choosing shepards for His flock... What is he, like pulling names out of a hat?

So the devil is putting out hits. Jesus ****ing Christ

So what are you saying then exactly? As a Christian is one supposed to be separated from poker?

Isn't that a contradiction?

Or am I reading it wrong and you are saying you attack anyone who doesn't believe what you do, regardless of their faith, beliefs etc?

It was more in the context of not attacking people who are not Christians. Whether they be followers of Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, or even Atheists. I respect other people's beliefs even though they are not my own.

Sorry, I could see how that can be read as a contradiction. I'll try and explain. I feel the world and Atheists wouldn't frown as much on Christianity the way they do if the only voice wasn't the very loud, hypocritical, and judgmental Christian Right. I feel that we as Christians have done a lot of harm to the way we are viewed around the world. We have strayed greatly from the teachings of love, acceptance, forgiveness, peace, and charity of Jesus. That is why I openly understand at times the hatred and anger towards Christians. I really hate what they claim and preach sometimes as well just as much as a lot of you do too. I feel only we(Christians) can help repair our own image. I feel so much of it is self inflicted. It hurts when people use the word of Jesus to promote and inflict pain and hatred as opposed to love and peace.(too many ands I know) I see a lot of that nowadays in the Christian Right. I am not categorizing them all together as one. Unfortunately the loudest and more extreme are the ones with media air time.

I know I am definitely more liberal than most, but there are many others who think the way I do.

Now that I look at it. My previous post is somewhat similar to OP's original statement.

Thanks for the explanation.

I'm in the UK and we don't really have the same issue with a very vocal christian right, although the catholic church can get a little vocal at times. It seems to be much more of an American thing thankfully.

Nm. I thought you were a Christian.

A++++.

I'll leave believers to meditate and pray on that one.

I'm not the ultimate authority in this world.

lilprog,

alright...i'm changing my mind. Start it up.

apparently i haven't yet washed myself of the arrogant "it's not this, it's not that" christian teachings i was once exposed to...

it's a good idea, do it...i wouldn't want to be involved though if you're keeping a count.

OK so I was thinking about this for a second.

Given that this guy believes that both God and the Devil exist, and given that he believes that the Devil is murdering and crippling and torturing millions of people per year, and that basically the only thing God is doing to stop it is putting newspapers in places where people who are good candidates for careers in the clergy will find them, why on earth does he think God is more powerful than the Devil? And if the Devil is more powerful than God, isn't he more deserving of praise than God?

It's a serious question, albeit masked by insincerity. When praying for guidance, how do Christians differentiate between God telling them what to do and just their id? If I legitimately believed in God and had a serious drug problem and if, when I prayed, I was convinced that God was telling me to stay the course, what would be the appropriate course of action?

I know you'll probably say something like "God's will is written on all of our hearts and he doesn't want anybody to debilitate their bodies with harmful substances," but I don't suscribe to because of the whole pshyco/socio path dilemma.

Sorry but I don't have an answer for you.

But I recommend you do some independent research into it because when you do that you tend to make critical discoveries on any God topic you choose to familiarize yourself with.

Keeping a count?

No, and you have to understand that it is probably the only thing in my life where I don`t reexamine it regularly to make sure I`m not missing something. I tend to reflect alot of my beliefs and thoughts on things to make sure I still feel I have an accuratte view. But not about this....


I`m not quite sure what this means or looks like. Example?