Please cite an example of me being a "homophobic bigot." If believing that homosexual behavior is a sin makes me a "homophobic bigot", then being a homophobic bigot ain't necessarily a bad thing.

It does, and it is.

Lb, don’t get in his van!

If believing that homosexual behavior is a sin is a sufficient condition for being labeled a "homophobic bigot", then that just proves what a vile culture we are living in. Such labeling could only make sense to someone who has been given over to a reprobate mind.

If someone believed that heterosexual behavior is a sin, I'd also imagine that they'd be a bigot.

Homophobia,

- culturally produced fear of or prejudice against homosexuals that sometimes manifests itself in legal restrictions or, in extreme cases, bullying or even violence against homosexuals (sometimes called “gay bashing”). ... Although the suffix phobia generally designates an irrational fear, in the case of homophobia the word instead refers to an attitudinal disposition ranging from mild dislike to abhorrence of people who are sexually or romantically attracted to individuals of the same sex. Homophobia is a culturally conditioned response to homosexuality, and attitudes toward homosexuals vary widely across cultures and over time.







Bigot
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Maybe one day, you'll join the millions of other Christians (including many faith leaders) who don't have an issue with "homosexual behaviour". I wish you the best of luck in reaching such a stage of enlightenment.

Edited your post.

By God's grace, I hope to continue to believe what the Bible teaches on all things. Even if such teachings offend reprobate minds and/or the Biblically illiterate faithful.

I pray that by God's grace you and others will trust God and His Word.


LGBT+= Let God be true and every man a liar.

Since I don't hate anybody, looks like I'm in the clear. Thanks for sharing.

Laggy, I am just curious as to why you seem to object to being a "homophobic bigot", when you are owning it above and saying it is because 'the bible tells you to be one'.

You understand it makes you look like a hypocrite too when you try to disavow who and what you are and simply owning it as your faith based position would at least look like you have the courage of your convictions.

Hate is not required in either of those definitions. Read better. Nothing after the ellipses are required.

Homophobia,

- culturally produced fear of or prejudice against homosexuals ...

Bigot

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group ...


Check and Check.

(oh and really. Calling Bobo a "reprobate" or unprincipled. Really?)

If believing that homosexual behavior is a sin, by logical necessity, entails that I am by definition a homophobic bigot, then I would bear that label as a badge of honor if not for the fact the definition includes beliefs about homosexuals that I do not believe.

I DO NOT hate homosexuals.

I pray for EVERYONE to " repent and believe the Gospel."

As i said, to fit a definition does not mean you check every single point.

In the definitions I quoted they go into examples but those are not required elements. This is the required part...

Homophobia,

- culturally produced fear of or prejudice against homosexuals ...

Bigot

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group ...

LOL. In the future, please let me know what parts of your posts I can safely disregard as "not required".

LOL again. My beliefs on the matter are AGAINST my culture.

1. My " opinion" is straight from Bible.

2. The phrase "intolerantly devoted to..." sounds like gibberish to me.

Not a topic I feel like getting into the wrestling ring on, but I have a bit of a tangent question to ask you, and it relates to the fact that the language in the bible is really old, and many times gets outdated and updated

The commandment that one should not coveting thy neighbor's slaves implies that slavery is an acceptable practice. I am assuming you do not believe in slavery, but that is what the bible says.

Similarly if the current religious leaders decide that homosexuality is no longer a sin (much like they would suggest slavery is not acceptable), would you then immediately flip a switch and believe that it is no longer a sin?

Kind of curious how that works with people like you, given that things like this do change over time even if the ancient words remain the same.

Nothing quite like a prideful bigot. Just pray the gay away lagtight

Weird that you make these comments, given your particular predilections.

You forgot the bit where you ignored Trolly's question about how your faith is important to you because you are scared of real life? I can find that for you.

Not sure what to say about that post of yours other than I assume you meant it as a reply to someone else. No idea what you are talking about in any of it with regard to my question to lagtight. Kind of makes me wonder if you may have had one or two dozen too many tonight.

Anyway, link the post you are thinking of with Trolly talking about my faith due to a fear of real life or something. That sounds very deep, and we all know Trolly is all about depth so I admit that would be an entertaining post to see, if it exists in the way you say it does. If it does then I am sorry I missed it the first time, as I certainly would have had fun responding to it at the time!

This is creepy af, reads like something bin laden would post.

You are right that I am shitfaced. And wrong about the post, I promise you that it exists. I will find it for you in the morning.

During the reign of Well_Named, I agreed to not engage the topic of homosexuality in this Forum. However, we agreed I was permitted to respond to attacks against me with respect to my views of homosexuality.

I believe that I have faithfully kept that agreement.

So, I would like to personally thank you for keeping this topic alive so that I can address the topic without violating my agreement with WN.

Perhaps others would like to express their gratitude to you as well.

Thanks again! And keep up the good work in the future!

The tenth commandment includes an abmonition to not covet your neighbor's servant. What translation translates that word as slave?

Edit: NASB and HCSB translate the word as slave

I don't base my beliefs on what "religious leaders" say, since they're all over the map on a lot of things.

I suppose if a valid Ecumenical Council convened and declared homosexuality no longer a sin, then I would at least reconsider my position for at least five seconds.

If I'm bigoted toward homosexuals, then I nominate myself as the World's Most Incompetent Bigot.

The nephew of a friend of mine invited me to the Lion's Club for Thanksgiving dinner last November.

Along with my myself, my friend (the Uncle), and the Nephew, was the Nephew's spouse, who is a man.

We all had a wonderful time talking, joking, laughing and enjoying the great food. It was one of the most delightful Thanksgiving's I've ever experienced.

All people are made in the image of God. I can enjoy a good time with people without endorsing any sin that they may be involved in. We are all sinners in various ways and in various degrees.

The world is not divided up between Sinners and Non-Sinners; it is divided up between Forgiven Sinners and Unforgiven Sinners.

Please share a bin laden post so we can compare.

Allah Akbar