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03-31-2020 , 10:40 PM

#51

WateryBoil

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"They fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds!"

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03-31-2020 , 10:46 PM

#52

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"They fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds!"

Jeremiah was an awesome dude. But, he was just a dude.

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04-06-2020 , 04:34 PM

#53

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Serious question, no gotcha, no loaded follow up:

Do you believe Jehovah create this coronavirus (and the rest of the pathogenic microbes to humans)??

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04-06-2020 , 06:00 PM

#54

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Serious question, no gotcha, no loaded follow up:

Do you believe Jehovah create this coronavirus (and the rest of the pathogenic microbes to humans)??

No.

One would need to believe in a "god" that controls every hair that drops from your head.

No.

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04-07-2020 , 06:41 AM

#55

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Why would non-swallowers of the religion not care about what so-called "saints" say? Boy, that's a tough one. If someone can get their head out of the religion even just for a second, they would realize, well, the church that sanctioned child-rapists in their midst has declared these certain individuals as saints ... some of those saints themselves are child rapists, the people electing them to sainthood are some of the very ones sanctioning and covering up child rapists, you know, after all, they are impressive "men of god" like that ... and just maybe, just maybe, all this is evil. Or maybe its god behind it all with his mysterious ways. This concludes the thought experiment about the blight on society of medieval "thinking."

2 Corinthians 11:13
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.

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04-07-2020 , 06:49 AM

#56

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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52

Serious question, no gotcha, no loaded follow up:

Do you believe Jehovah create this coronavirus (and the rest of the pathogenic microbes to humans)??

Events that kill large numbers of people (fire, flood, earthquake, pandemic, etc.) are part of the natural cycle of life and thus must be part of God's plan.

Death is not an evil thing, it's a natural part of life.

This particular virus however, was probably created by man keeping animals in cruel and unnatural conditions, and may be an example of how when we deviate from God's will, it leads to suffering.

Sometimes sad things happen because we are supposed to learn and grow from them and sometimes sad things happen because we did not follow the will of God. I believe this situation is the latter.

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04-07-2020 , 06:55 AM

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Well, at least, priests are raping children all over the world, just like god wants em to..

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04-07-2020 , 01:47 PM

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Death is not an evil thing, it's a natural part of life.

You can only say that from a distance. Death is not evil only when it serves life. I see a lot of senseless death that isn’t providing much service to life. I see a lot of senseless suffering that isn’t providing much service to life.

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04-07-2020 , 02:40 PM

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If we distance ourselves from death, then we don't know death.
If we don't know death, then we don't know the world.
If we don't know the world, then we don't know God.
If we don't know God, then we don't know life.
If we don't know life, then we distance ourselves from death.

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04-07-2020 , 03:08 PM

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If we distance ourselves from death, then we don’t know life.
If we don’t know life, then we don’t know God.
If we don’t know God, then we don’t know the world.
If we don’t know the world, then we don’t know death.
If we don’t know death, then we distance ourselves from death.

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04-07-2020 , 03:41 PM

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If we are currently distant from death in the moment, then time is against us.
If we hold ourselves close to death in the moment, then times is on our side.

“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”

“...blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

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04-07-2020 , 05:12 PM

#62

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are you ok?

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04-07-2020 , 05:55 PM

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Well, at least, priests are raping children all over the world, just like god wants em to..

I've given you opportunities to expand on this a few times, and you've refused.

You need a new shtick.

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04-07-2020 , 06:01 PM

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are you ok?

Stop playing to the crowd. What is most important is beyond the social. Become solitary, then re-read what I posted.

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04-07-2020 , 07:44 PM

#65

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Stop playing to the crowd.

Interesting.

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04-07-2020 , 08:03 PM

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I've given you opportunities to expand on this a few times, and you've refused.

You need a new shtick.

Ohhhh, you've given me opportunities..who cares?! Scolding me because I ignore your boring posts? Ridiculous, you need a new shtick.

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04-07-2020 , 08:52 PM

#67

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Ohhhh, you've given me opportunities..who cares?! Scolding me because I ignore your boring posts? Ridiculous, you need a new shtick.

I've admitted my shtick publicly. Perhaps you missed it -- too concerned about your own.

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04-07-2020 , 09:12 PM

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I've admitted my shtick publicly. Perhaps you missed it -- too concerned about your own.

Hey allright, can I please go back to ignoring your posts again? Thanks!

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04-07-2020 , 09:24 PM

#69

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Hey allright, can I please go back to ignoring your posts again? Thanks!

Sure. There is a block function, by the way. But you'll always see when I post. And if someone quotes me, well, too bad.

Good luck with that.

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04-08-2020 , 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by craig1120

Stop playing to the crowd. What is most important is beyond the social. Become solitary, then re-read what I posted.

I wasnt playing to the crowd, it was a genuine question. Youre posting pattern has changed, just wondered if you were ok

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04-08-2020 , 11:22 AM

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2 Corinthians 11:13
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.

But this applies to the whole church because even the non-perpetrators systematically covered it up and allowed it to continue. That's not men of god. That's a criminal organization.

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04-08-2020 , 01:17 PM

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I wasnt playing to the crowd, it was a genuine question. Youre posting pattern has changed, just wondered if you were ok

Thanks for the concern. The highest truths emerge from the darkness. We have to go there if we want sustainable solutions rather than deceptions.

I’m probably about done with this push I’ve been on recently. I have been trying to model the mindset that is necessary to make progress towards what I see as universal desires.

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04-08-2020 , 03:38 PM

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"Nothing saves us from death, but may love save us from life." -- Pablo Neruda

Oh, except for Jesus. He can save us from death. You know, the omniscient guy who thought plagues came from demons. Important: you are more moral when your mind is in, and admits, reality.

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04-08-2020 , 05:38 PM

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Do I have to remind you that evolution explores total acceptance of fulfillment?

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04-09-2020 , 12:32 AM

#75

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This corona virus and microbes in general are explained naturally.

To explain it as part of "creation," we can deduce that Jehovah needed to create it as a another vector of his famous murderous righteousness.

Is it a demon? Is it naturally occurring microbe? Does the magic/miracle story from centuries before medieval times explain the real world?

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