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Originally Posted by 0bscura
http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/...and-hezbollah/
Widespread support for extremist terrorists groups and Bin Laden, stoning for adultery or leaving Islam, corporal punishment such as limbs hacked off for petty theft, and for suicide bombings as well . . . While of course this isn't uniform through the world and likely is related to local culture as in countries such as Turkey such is extremism is more rare, it isn't like the the religious texts aren't conductive to such a world view.
I just saw this before I was about to head out, so you lead off with 5 accusations,
- stoning for adultery or leaving Islam (highly debatable at worst) in fact the Quran allows one to leave Islam and preaches treating women with the utmost respect, see other Islam thread
-corporal punishment ( debatable at worst), see in the other Islam thread,
-suicide bombings (highy debatable at worst) see in the other Islam thread. Quran disallows this against innocents
-terrorists,(highly debatable at worst) Oh boy, Not the terrorists "can someone please think of the children"
Quran Disallowes this agaisnt innocents
scary isn't it? it depends on how you view it and where you get your information but more important it comes down to understanding the facts of history from a full non bias scope.
We can compare the legal systems of certain countries nonstop. But what stands out to me in your argument is your accusation of equating Islam along with the Quran itself with human terrorism. I'm far from being anti american but the facts are the " Islamic terrorists" have killed far, far considerably far less since the inception of the Quran 1400 years ago then that of the US/German/Russian Military entire history
As for Al Qaeda, a group which was only made possible by the CIA/ISI... think of its formation this way.... The following is a timeline created by myself of what occurred in Afghanistan from 1980-2001.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan
Russia Invades Afghanistan to keep it communist (1980)--->US/Pakistan supports/trains the rebel Mujaheddin in Afghanistan including Bin Laden---> Communist Afghanistan is not defeated but basically destroyed in a long war in what is referred to as Russia's Vietnam----> Afghanistan starts to fall apart in the late 80s early 90s--->by 1992 Afghanistan completely falls apart and its communist president is brutally tortured/executed by the same rebels the US/Pakistan supported---->a tribal pact is formed and from 92-96 political power is shared in Afghanistan, eventually major disagreements occur and a civil war ensues----> 1996 The Taliban come to power, largely made of those same Mujaheddin from the 1980s ----->2001-----> Taliban are accused of harboring Osama Bin Laden, the same man who was supported by the ISI/CIA in the 1980s.
---> 2001 9/11 occurs and with it George W bush declares to all nations of the world "either you are with us or you are with the terrorists"
"The Reagan administration increased arming and funding of the mujaheddin as part of the Reagan Doctrine, thanks in large part to the efforts of Charlie Wilson and CIA officer Gust Avrakotos. Early reports estimated $6–20 billion but more recent reports suggest that up to $40 billion were provided by the U.S. and Saudi Arabia to Pakistan. This was in the forms of cash and weapons, which included over two thousand FIM-92 Stinger surface-to-air missiles"
-just in case anyone wondered where those weapons you see in Al Qaeda videos came from
While some tenants of Al Qaeda and its offshoots appear to be Islamic, blaming modern day "Islamic terrorism" on Islam or the Quran has its many flaws. IMO Islam (as outlined in the actual text of Quran and by M) is a religion of peace
"Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; But turn away from the ignorant. " [Quran 7:199]
"It may be that Allah will bring about love between you and those of them with whom you are now at enmity... Allah forbids you not respecting those who have not fought against you on account of your religion, and who have not driven you out from your homes, that you be kind to them and deal equitably with them; surely, Allah loves those who are equitable." - Holy Qur'an, 60:8-9
"the taking of one innocent life is like taking all of Mankind... and the saving of one life is like saving all of Mankind" - Holy Qur'an, 5:33.
Happy thanksgiving
Last edited by thekid345; 11-28-2013 at 01:11 AM.