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Originally Posted by BeaucoupFish
Still not really what I was referring to!
I don't think it's a controversial question of Christian theology, to ask why someone's eternal fate is based on whatever happens during the tiny beginning period of their existence rather than an 'ongoing assessment'? After a billion years-worth of data, how relevant is a judgement that was made based only on the first few decades (at most) of their existence? Unless there are periodic transfers between heaven and hell!
Getting slightly more off topic, I also don't see the importance of 'faith', meaning accepting Christ before you die, not after. What is the difference between someone who accepts Christ, and is killed by a lightning strike 3 seconds later, versus a person who has not accepted Christ, but would like to 3 seconds after they have died and are standing before God (or whatever scenario would match the idea)?
I know its not your plan but using the "billions of years" of existence as a cudgel is questionable but in truth; man has been in this existence from the beginning, no matter how one structures the "billions of years".
Aside from the concept that the "time" as we are using it, is a function of solar,lunar, and planetary movements there was a "time" (no pun intended) when the movements of the heavens were not as we see today, which is another story.
Man entered into this realm of experiential being as "first being", not the last, or the insignificant, but the primary motivation (words are difficult here) of the creative divinity.
If one would be capable of looking into the past, as some do, one looks within man, or one's self and you would see the past in movement to the present and continuing on into the future. the kingdoms of nature; mineral, plant, animal are the "rejections" of the human being as man progressed into his future.
One difficulty is that it is hard to envision man without legs, arms, head, as presently constituted but consider that at one time he was not unlike a jellyfish floating in a "water" or fluid state but was not a jellyfish. At this state he was not fully incarnated within the "physical" which was at best a tenuous materiality but would act from "without" , but not totally so. LOL here.
The higher beings to which you refer in the negative were present is some comprehensible form and have developed , as has Man. The "angels in heaven have anxieties" that Man will not reach his futuristic goal and that Christ Being to whom you refer has been present in not only the human development but also is primary of cosmic development and movement into the future.
Life and our innate and future abilities did not start at our birth no matter how many DNA's marshal for the war of a materiality against the heavens of Man's source, his home to which he has fallen, and in this he returns refurbished , being more that his previous state, Man then becomes a true "Human Being".