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Originally Posted by lagtight
How so?
Because you can't prove that none of those gods are the ones that actually exist and that it's actually you that's right.
I'm genuinely curious about how you convince yourself that your god is real, and Allah, for example, being the closest god to your Christian beliefs probably, isn't real? If you don't think Allah is real, then how do you explain over a billion people believing in him?
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Why?
Because arguments for gods rely on logical constructs that can apply to any god that meets the criteria you assign to yours, you have no way to know if you're right that it's your god that actually exists and not one of the others, and that matters. You could be worshipping the wrong god.
You ought to be as equally agnostic about your god as you are about all the other gods and yet instead you have certainty. That certainty is unreasonable, you haven't justified it.
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I don't recall ever postulating an argument that commits the "God of the Gaps" Fallacy. Do you recall me ever committing that fallacy?
I didn't say you did or that it's a fallacy. It's simply the last hiding place of god, the things that we haven't yet explained using a different method, like the scientific method for example.
I find 'yeah but why are we even here' (i.e. a 'gap' that science hasn't yet explained) to be the most unconvincing and dissatisfying, and I have to say, intellectually dishonest reason for believing in a god. I have higher standards for my beliefs.
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Originally Posted by lagtight
It's outside of my skill set to figure out why you're not convinced that Jesus was and is who He claimed to be.
The existence of God is certainly not a trivial matter, in my opinion.
I'm using 'trivially true' to mean that it's very easy to show as true. We can use 'axiomatic' if you prefer, the point is that if it were that obviously true, why would I be in any doubt about it? More likely than all the dodges like 'mysterious ways' used to explain why god doesn't simply make himself known, is that he doesn't exist at all and we invented him, like all those other gods that you don't believe in and you think were invented.