Whether we currently have gotten cryogenics right is irrelevant to the theological question being asked. Perhaps we can leave the niceties of cryogenics to SMP and just posit, for the sake of the argument, that we've got the technology to unthaw these guys at some point and have them be alive.

non-local

non-temporal

While second link doesn't give anything, it doesn't matter since the first one is meant in spacetime, so let's concentrate on it.

Is your claim now that souls are non-local (as is meant by that wiki link)? If so, where and when else is their state dependent on besides now in this body? Is it also dependent on e.g. 15k years later on a planet near Alpha Centauri?

Be as specific as you can please.

Their "state" isn't dependent on the body. The body is dependent on the soul.

*facepalm*

non-local means that the state of your soul (whatever that entails - be it the color or the joy of your soul) depends not just on one location but on several, so what are those locations? I (naively) presumed one of those locations at least would be the body, but hey - what do I know about souls.

When I lived in Virginia, there was a phenomenon called "angel trees" or "ghost trees." I imagine there are other names for this in pother places. Some days you would find, in a stand of trees, a bit of forest, that after the morning fog had cleared off, even though it was a clear day, one tree, not the biggest or the smallest, but it always seemed to only be one, had fog "trapped" in it's leaves.

It's a beautiful and also fascinating thing to see. The fog seemed quite dense near the trunk, and grew less so as it neared the edges of the branches where it was quite wispy and disappeared altogether at the edge. Of course, it's quite humid in that part of the world, and we can imagine, even though we couldn't see it with the naked eye, that there was no real boundary of fog/not-fog. We can presume with a fair amount of confidence that at some point the mist simply thinned enough to be indistinguishable from the atmosphere that seemed to the human observer "fogless."

So, to the observer we have a stationary and solid tree and a cloud within the branches, as if that cloud were a discrete thing.

The "cloud" acts in this manner because it is acted upon by two things: the tree and the environment it creates (a micro-environment) and the atmosphere around the tree, or the macro-environment, of which it is always part.

I'll presume the analogy is clear. The soul is non-local. One of the differences is, when the cloud dissipates, the tree doesn't die.

I took you off my ignore list because I made a mistake posting in someone's thread who I had also put on ignore. I can stay here or leave, but do the "facepalm" thing one more time, and it'll be clear which you want to happen.

I answered you this time because you finally asked in a way that made me able to address an actual issue.

first and foremost - *lol-facepalm* at the threats to put me on ignore

I think we have found a clear enough definition of non-local which I certainly agree upon that makes any kind of analogy for explaining what non-local means completely unnecessary, so don't give me analogies, just answer my question. I can repeat it if you like - where is the soul? Being non-local simply means it's at more than one point. So what are those points?

partial grunch... perhaps until the omega point. A long time if you had to wait around being conscious, but should be instantaneous from death to omega.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_Point_%28Tipler%29

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FYP

You cant fyp on 0.5 it's classic.