before going away (to wherever souls go) after hmm, let's say your heart stops or your brain waves stop or what was it - oh yeah, rigor mortis sets in? Or does it go and come back once you're revived?

What if you're cryogenically frozen for a couple of hundred years? Do you get to enjoy heaven for those 200 years and then come back to (this horrible?) Earth or does your soul just get stuck in the body that may or may not be revived?

If you think questioning things and trying to understand them is bad/devilish/any other negative adjective - stay out of this thread please.

Do you think someone really knows the answer to this? Come, on you ask so many stupid questions without ever really wanting an answer. All you do is pose questions that you think will confuse a believer or debunk the bible.

I think asking a question is great, but not when you have no real itentions whatsoever to learn. Especially if your main motivation is just to try and find some new way to mock God, the bible, christians and things you do not understand.

Have you ever heard that someone who is always picking out the flaws in others has usually got a case of an inferiority complex? It makes you feel more smug and knowledeble when you present questions that you think cannot be answered. and they are not really meant to be answered.

The reason you ask such questions is really just to lead into making someone else look stupid, that way you look smarter than them.

All men have there vices and ways to make them feel better about themselves, if this is your way then thats fine, just letting you know that you're not fooling me at least.

lol, Pletho doesn't KNOW smth about his religion, gotta be the FIRST!

Your quite a character, I dont answer your questions anymore because they are ******ed. Not because I do not know the answers, you ask questions that are remedial in nature.

I agree with Pletho here.

But I think we Christians assume, that if a person is 100% dead, the brain and heart stops functioning, then immediately goes to heaven or hell depending on Gods judgment.

- If it's possible you can be revived, you're not 100% dead.
- If you are frozen, you're not 100% dead.

*sacrificies a goat to Zeus in utter joy*

******BEWARE INSANE MAN LOOSE******* Eddi is his name........

J.K. Eddi... I am sure under normal circumstances you are probably a decent dude.

So if I cryogenically freeze a christian and release him into outer space - he's basically f*cked?

this is actually a really good question there guy

This shows again your lack of understanding and knowledge about things realted to God and the bible and eternal life.

Death is death......being frozen if it at all is possible for a long period of time would not be death it would be more like a coma.

All Christians dead or alive will be changed at the last trump of God and will be gathered together, they will all recieve a new spiritual body, even if they are on the most remote planet on our solor system frozen....... LOL!

Any more stupid questions or comments will have to wait I have got to go?

Dear Pletho, if you never post in threads I start and/or answer any of my questions (as you promised you would a couple of posts earlier - so don't make my goat worthless), I will respect that and will never reply to any of your posts or post in any of the threads you start. Thanks.

Maybe you don't know this, but that's science fiction.

Also, souls are supposed to be atemporal, so they don't experience time.

Maybe you don't know this, but the cryogenically freezing part is NOT science fiction.

Also, do you understand what that last sentence means or is that just a collection of random words?

OK, go ahead and try cryo-freezing somebody. See how it goes and let us know.

"Cryonics is a speculative life support technology..." You should read the sources you post.

Random word generator. It's all the same to you anyway.

There are about 800 or so frozen people around. So what say you about their souls?

*shrug*, if you understand what you wrote well enough to explain it - please do

The "location" of your soul (by which I presume we mean the Eternal person) does not depend on the state of your body. It isn't like your soul is trapped in there. Eternity is non-local and non-temporal and you are actually always "located" in it. Your body is part of the Grand Illusion of Time/Space. Your sojourn in Time includes being attached to that body, so much so that most (but not all) people accept the illusion as the Reality. (See: the Matrix for an analogous situation.) The soul detaches from the body at the will of God - regardless of the state of the flesh.

If there is a universal, eternal soul then it doesn't "wait".

That's 800 fantasy-inspired-techno-idealists-turned-corpses, then. If you can pause and resume your heart and brain activity for prolonged periods as well as the rest of your entire bodily systems, then cryostasis is possible. Otherwise, it will remain in the realm of science fiction. Whatever happens to their souls depends on whatever you believe, assuming you believe in souls.

What is it that was unclear?

You're saying unrelated things. We CAN pause and resume both heart and brain activity for prolonged periods of time - and that's regularly done during heart transplant surgeries. This has little to do with cryogenic freezing (but maybe it has smth to do with your idea of the soul - who knows).

Well, I'm a physicist, so indulge me and explain to me what being atemporal and not experiencing time means (since you know - I only understand the word experience when it's tied with time).

Uh huh.

Also I find it hilarious that someone like you can't imagine a world without gods but can imagine things "outside time and space", whatever that means.

"Someone like me?" LOL!

So, you, yourself, purported to be some sort of physics expert, don't know what non-local and non-temporal mean?

Also, how exactly are personal comments about me a response to the topic and how do they demonstrate you are "questioning things and trying to understand them" as you said in the op?

And there are 0 people who have ever been revived from this state.

They're dead.

Unconscious, anesthetized patients being operated on are a) not brain dead, and b) are supported by drugs and machinery. This is nothing like freezing them whole and having them regain consciousness and life after thawing.

Good, so this should be straightforward and easy enough: Souls do not experience time.

If you're asking me how the soul would operate and function in the physical realm and the effects of time on it, I couldn't tell you. I haven't really captured a soul and run tests on it. Use your imagination from thereon.

DEAL!

I'd say it waits an infinite amount of time.