Quote:
Originally Posted by RoundGuy
Truth is a fact that can be proven -- by evidence, by repeatable observation, by others other than you.
Anything else is just belief.
I think you described knowledge rather than truth. Knowledge, then, would be a fact that can be demonstrated (I prefer this to proven).
How about this:
Truth: that which is the case.
Belief: holding that some proposition is true.
Knowledge: a belief that is true (plus is justified, or is held reliably, etc).
Fact: is some discovered truth.
So....
There exists a jar of uncounted jellybeans.
There happen to be 99 jellybeans in the jar.
It is
true that there are 99 jellybeans in the jar (I think OrP would also call this a
fact, whereas I would not, nor I suspect would Aaron). But after the jellybeans are counted, it world be a
fact.
If someone counted the jellybeans correctly, they would
believe that there were 99 jellybeans in the jar, and since that is true/a fact/arrived at reliably, they would
know that there were 99 jellybeans in the jar.
Another person took a wild guess, and happened to arrive at the number 99. They would also
believe there were 99 jellybeans, but they wouldn't
know that there were.