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04-06-2020 , 06:43 PM

#151

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Originally Posted by craig1120

I’m not in this for money.

That's good, nobody would pay for boring, pointless stuff that a 10 year old could write.

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04-06-2020 , 08:36 PM

#152

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Originally Posted by craig1120

I’m not in this for money.

Never made that inference.

Ego.

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04-06-2020 , 08:44 PM

#153

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Originally Posted by RoundGuy

Never made that inference.

Ego.

It has to be, right? Because it can’t be that what I share here is real and actually works.

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04-06-2020 , 09:59 PM

#154

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Originally Posted by craig1120

Because it can’t be that what I share here is real and actually works.

Based on available evidence, no.

The bible doesn't work that much in the real world.

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04-06-2020 , 10:54 PM

#155

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Originally Posted by RoundGuy

Based on available evidence, no.

The bible doesn't work that much in the real world.

I get that people have hang ups with the Bible. Christopher Nolan’s movies are also a goldmine for material, but it’s less accessible for me to share here.

The movie Batman Begins for instance:

https://youtu.be/U45yQGwFmqQ

Starting at 2:25
-Self sabotage (shows the gun and gets slapped)
-Connection to conscience (throws gun away)

Next scene:

https://youtu.be/qYJONPqBvlY

-Doubles down on self sabotage to anchor it by confronting the mob boss
-Endures defeat/feelings of worthlessness after getting punched and thrown in gutter
-Transformation begins (strips off jacket representing shedding old identity/life)
-Hears the call to venture into the chaotic unknown

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04-06-2020 , 11:33 PM

#156

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Originally Posted by craig1120

I get that people have hang ups with the Bible.

Real people also realize that make-believe movies are, you know, make-believe.

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04-06-2020 , 11:40 PM

#157

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Originally Posted by RoundGuy

Real people also realize that make-believe movies are, you know, make-believe.

Right, truth is limited to facts and art is completely relative and random. I understand.

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04-07-2020 , 12:40 AM

#158

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Originally Posted by craig1120

Right, truth is limited to facts and art is completely relative and random. I understand.

Art is interesting. Is art truth? Or is it just imaginative and conceptual.

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04-07-2020 , 01:34 AM

#159

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Originally Posted by RoundGuy

Art is interesting. Is art truth? Or is it just imaginative and conceptual.

I’m not sure what you think you are doing with this, but a better question for you to ponder - why are there common patterns among the most relevant fictional stories?

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04-07-2020 , 02:30 AM

#160

BeaucoupFish

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Originally Posted by craig1120

...why are there common patterns among the most relevant fictional stories?

Their songs are on the whole very simple and mostly follow the familiar theme of boy-being meets girl-being beneath silvery moon, which then explodes for no adequately explored reason.

Like that?