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How did everything come from nothing? How did everything come from nothing?

03-12-2011 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Neue Regel
it's not "most", but at the same time you don't want to undersell it for the US. in the latest gallup poll (Dec 2010) 40% of US adults polled still believe the earth is <10000 years old.
thats because the majority of people who responded were bible toting rednecks with no jobs because they will just pray and god will take care of them. the rest of the logical people were at work and too busy to respond.
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03-12-2011 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by iamunLUCKY
I made the thread because idk how an atheist can say that creation doesnt need a creator. They typically then say well we dont know how the universe was created, but at the same time will never say it could have possibly been God. If they dont have a clue then the chance of God (or an almighty Creator) should be in the equation. Because of this i think its ignorant to be a professing atheist and an agnostic is a better title.
you truly are clueless when it comes to most atheists. none say it it couldn't have been god. they usually say it is extremely likely it was not god, and even more so on top of that extremely likely it was not the god of the bible.

it seems to me that you only hear what you want to hear. you interpret what you hear/read any way you want to try and prove your case. to prove it i just have to look at your thread title for your self ownage. a big bang theorist says infinitely small and dense, you equate that with "nothing" the same way that extremely unlikely you equate with no chance.

have you ever heard of russels teapot?

educated atheists dont say no chance. do some more research or up your listening, reading and interpreting comprehension before you continue to make these claims.
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03-12-2011 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by iamunLUCKY
Isnt it much more logical to think that a creator created the universe, rather than it just came about from nothing?
So where does your god come from then? If something can come from nothing, why not the universe? If god was somehow "always" here, why not the universe? You're adding an unnecessary step, and not a very sensical one at that.

Even leaving that aside, 'X did it,' and calling X 'god' still doesn't get you anywhere. You certainly don't get to make the leap to attaching a bunch of ideas and qualities and actions to 'god,' and claim that you're correct about any of it.

Answering "science doesn't yet know, but at present has some very good, reasonable models of what might have happened," is a lot more "logical" (and intellectually honest) than just inventing an answer that makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.
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03-12-2011 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by iamunLUCKY
Isnt it much more logical to think that a creator created the universe, rather than it just came about from nothing?

How does something come from nothing? You can look at anything and know that it was created so why not the universe? I notice most atheist just avoid this question....please explain.
Science doesn't avoid the question, we admit that a singularity happened at the beginning of the big bang. The question that religious people avoid is: if "god" created the universe, what created him? if he created himself, how did he do it?

further, why is a being that can create everything out of nothing going to create a horrible place called hell, and banish anyone who doesnt obey the rules he made to it for eternity? throwing the word logical into your fairy tale doesnt make it any more "logical"

it's like the "church of christian science" you'll never be able to be a christian science major.
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