Now, dear readers, let us wait with bated breath for Uke to present what is the conclusion he wants to arrive at in this thread.
Or if he will again flee from that request, then let us see whether he will tell us what is his agenda; but please, dear Uke, not another declaration with a question about how I come to God existing from the existence of things and that things existing are either from others or from themselves.
You see, dear readers here, he has been repeating that declaration question into infinite regress, even though I have already shown that as he accepts the two premises of things exist and that things exist from themselves or from others, it follows that God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
Dear readers, please look up this link:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=184.
See, dear readers, these stubborn wastrel tenants here should already go away, because they are into nothing of any profit to mankind in regard to the enhancement of our knowledge, on the issue God exists or not, but into unremitting attempts at distracting mankind from considering the issue with our heart and mind grounded on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.
It is a certainty to me that these posters: Neeeel, Aaron, Uke, and others of their ilk are up to no good, but to frustrate the objective of this thread.
In my country, in a court setting witnesses or anyone having a role to play in court, acting the way these persons do, namely: Neeeel, Aaron, Uke, and others like them, are charged with contempt and dispatched pronto to the detention cells in the basement of the court building.
Here, I can only just avoid them studiously.