Thanks everyone for your presence.
Now, to everyone even though I don't mention your name, please resume our common task to work as to come to concurrence from concurrence, because otherwise we are or you are wasting my time here.
1. We have already concurred that the nose exists, or in general, "The default status of things in the totality of being is existence.
2. I am now asking us all to work as to concur on this statement:
“Things existing are of two ultimate classes: [a] things existing from others, [b] things existing from themselves.”
Now, if you do not concur on #2, please present your explanation why.
From my part with thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, it cannot be otherwise than that things existing are ultimately of either one of two classes: [a] things existing from others, or [b] things existing from themselves.
What about my explanation?
Here it is:
Consider your nose, it comes from your parents, and you can go on from there to the Big Bang and beyond, that is an example of things existing from others; continue on as I said beyond the Big Bang and on and on and on… and sooner than later you come to the sure conclusion that the nose in our face has its origin ultimately in thing(s) which exist from themselves.
For posters who will not concur with me on #2 and will not explain as to be lucid to readers here, instead of going into inanities, please go away, I will not read you.
Happy thinking and writing!
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Originally Posted by Susmario
Thanks everyone for your presence.
So, let us all who do know the existence of the nose in our face, the existence of the balls in our lower torso, the existence of nipples in our upper torso, and the existence of our farting and the fart issuing therefrom, let us proceed to the next step, namely, the next item of concurrence among us all.
Here is my submission for us to work on to come to concurrence.
Things in existence are of two kinds, from our experience of examining them in regard to where they come from, namely:
Things existing from others and things existing from themselves.
Okay, everyone, think about that on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.
Summing up:
1. The nose exists, etc., or the default status of things in the totality of being is existence. Concurred!
2. Things in existence are of two ultimate classes, namely: things existing from others and things existing from themselves. Concurred?
Notice that we are talking concepts as usual; and we will all think on them concepts whatever in our mind, to come to concurrence that the concepts have things corresponding to them concepts, in the realm of objective reality outside our mind.
Happy thinking and writing!