So, let intelligent and knowledgeable folks here not have to give comments to sentence by sentence to my posts here, just attend to the beef of my each post, relevant to the thread which is into:
"How to come to God existing with thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas."
Let us proceed from the truth and the fact that by experience we know what is existence, and its being an objective entity independent of our mind, namely: that it
scil. existence is the default status of things in the totality of being.
If you anyone do not accept that, then I will not read your post - as soon as I observe that you are NOT proceeding from that point, that the default status of the totality of being is existence, starting for example with the nose in our face, I will stop reading your post, because you are going to waste my time and effort to understand your point if any at all relevant to the thread.
I am asking you now everyone to exchange thoughts with me and among all ourselves posting in this thread, on how we come to the certainty that all instances of existence can be divided into:
1. Things from themselves, and
2. Things from other things.
If you intelligently hold that there is another ultimate category of things in existence, please declare it in your posts in reply to my post the present one I am now writing here.
And explain it, at least with an example from everyday concrete life and work and leisure and trials, etc., an example of something that is neither existing from itself nor from other(s).
Here is my explanation why I know for a certainty that things in the totality of being are of ultimately two kinds, namely: existing from themselves or existing from other(s): my explanation is because I know a thing is either existing from itself or existing from other(s), there cannot at all be possible to think at all on anything that is neither existing from itself nor existing from other(s).
Happy thinking and writing!
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Originally Posted by Susmario Yesterday, 01:43 PM #99
Re: How to come to God existing with thinking on truths, facts, logic...
Thanks everyone for your presence.
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Now, we have ascertained the existence of the nose in our face, by experiencing its presence with our touching it and pinching it: all of us the nose in our face and the nose in everyone else’s face.
That is a very good ascertainment of the truth and the fact of existence.
And that is one instance of the truth of the sentence, "The default status of things in the totality of being is existence."
Dear colleagues here, I ask all of ourselves active in this thread:
Do we want to continue experiencing additional instances of the experience of existence, experience by which we will come ultimately to the certainty of existence is the default status of things in the totality of being?
Or can we already proceed to seek to classify all the instances of the reality of the existence of all things?
What am I driving at?
I am driving at the truth and the fact that all things are into ultimately two categories, namely:
1. Things from themselves, and
2. Things from other things.
There, do you everyone concur with my finding that all things in the totality of being are either existing from themselves or existing from other things?
Happy thinking and writing!
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Originally Posted by Susmario Yesterday, 05:36 PM #95
Re: How to come to God existing with thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.
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Dear everyone here, let us rehearse how we experience the existence of the nose in our face.
Let you and me each touch and pinch our respective nose, and the nose of everyone else, then we will have ascertained the existence of the nose in our face; is that okay with everyone?
Happy thinking and writing!