If you were the omnipotent and omniscient creator of the universe...
-would you have created a heaven and a hell?
-What would they be like?
-Would they be eternal or would it be possible to go from hell to heaven eventually?
-What would the criteria for entry to either place be?

No.

Other questions meaningless imo.

Of course not. Condemning the vast majority of people to eternal suffering is just about the most evil act imaginable.

so you would be an unjust god?

There is no other way for God to be just? Why create anything if suffering is your only way of being just? This really just sort of proves how man made religion is.

The fact that you believe that Hitler and Mother Theresa should have the same fate shows me how perverse man made atheism really is.

BOOOOOOOOOOM HEAD SHOT!

You didn't answer the question. As an aside do you think that you and Mother Theresa will have the same fate? How about Mother Theresa and the born again Christian Ted Bundy?

But I would make evolution the key to finding total enlightenment and me.

the not so subtle assumptions that mother theresa either a) had faith in god worthy of getting her in to heaven, or b) was a good person, seem quite ignorant.

Yes, I'd have created a heaven that would be universal and eternal.

Actually, I would create the universe as something like an "amusement park," except that it would be considerably more complex and sophisticated. Life itself would be the beginning of a long ride. The ride would proceed in phases, and between each phase a person would be able to spend time in a "pocket universe" over which that person would have complete control. The person would be able to get out any aggression or desire for material things in this "rest universe." Slowly, the person's awareness would increase, and eventually the person would create a world of simple peace in the pocket universe.

After a period of rest in this peaceful universe, the person would move on to the next phase of the ride (which would pick up where the person's earthly life left off). Each phase would be far deeper and more interesting than the one before, and each phase would bring the person closer to his true nature (that of much greater awareness, joy, compassion, and understanding than any human is capable of). When the ride reaches its conclusion, the person is back in the "amusement park," able to repeat that ride or to choose other rides (that are beyond our comprehension - though the person could certainly choose to live any fantasy we can imagine, such fantasies would pale in comparison to the reality of heaven, and heaven would be reality).

madnak for god

I'm pretty sure Hitler was hated across the world and was overthrown by the allies which ultimately lead to his death. I don't remember anyone declaring war on Mother Theresa and planning her downfall.....

and THIS

Should has nothing to do with it.

Ship plz k thx.

You just love dropping little one-liners like this and it seems you think they're rather brilliant or something.(lol) Yet once your little one-line dig is shown to be completely off the mark you somehow conveniently forget to ever come back to the thread.

I especially loved the time you said you didn't have enough faith to be an atheist, then never came back to defend your statement after many ripped it to shreds.

You might have to think about this FYP (and Mother Theresa's final years) for a bit.

how is an eternity of torment a just punishment for even the worst lifetime of sin? i see no justice there.

*bump*

please answer jib. is eternal torment a just punishment for a lifetime of sinfulness?

i wouldnt mind seeing some of hte theists answer dragonystics question as well as the op...

Prolly like how south park depicts it. enjoy ur mormons, morans.

(also the angel gabriel sniffing the magic marker makes me DIE every time)

I already know the response... in his opinion there is no eternal torment or hell... you simply cease to exist or you die the "second death". He will reference Greg Boyd and his take on hell but even Boyd's view doesn't agree with Jib. Boyd believes in a purgatory like state and Jib doesn't believe in purgatory.

ya prolly

It's just if you believe that there will definitely be eternal suffering if you willingly - the caveat - indulge in a lifetime of "sin." If you don't believe... Well, obviously applying the idea of justice here would be trivial.

Imagine you're driving down a road on a long trip. You come to a split and see me sitting on a bench, reading the paper, having a sandwich and generally minding my own business. You're lost and your map is somewhat outdated, so you decide to come and ask for directions. I tell you that both of these roads lead to your destination. One of them is a very short trip (50-60 minutes), while the other will take you at least five hours. I caution you that the shortcut, however, has poor terrain (you have a small, four-door coup) and no pit stops (food, gas, restroom), so chances are good that very few others might take this path.

You don't have a particular time-frame for this trip, but you decide to go the shortcut anyway. It's a very bumpy ride with lots of potholes and jagged rocks. About 20 minutes down this path you blow, not one, but two of your tires ("well, ****..."). You pull out your phone to call for roadside assistance from AAA, but there's just one HUGE problem: no reception. You're ****ed now, and the wife is going into hyper nag mode (oh yeah, you have a wife that loves to nag, btw).

Would you believe everything (anything) I told you before you took the road? Would you ever assume I was lying, or consider the possibility that I might be deceiving you? For what purpose (aside from the tiny, outside possibility that I may derive sadistic pleasure from misleading naive travelers)? Why? Would you be correct in thinking something like, "why the **** didn't that ***-**** tell me this was going to happen" post facto?