Says a poster with basically 0 knowledge regarding scripture. Now that's funny.

Scripture is not intelligence. Is someone intelligent for have seeing the jerry springer show? Knowledge does not = intellignece
Scripture is just fiction and matter of fact with no logic behind other than coincidence.

I think I'll have to regard you as a New Ager.

You need to pick up a copy of Geisler/Zukeran's copy of The Apologetics of Jesus. Jesus uses all the following logic forms in the Gospels and they show how and give the cross cites:

Jesus’ Apologetic Use of Testimony
Jesus’ Apologetic Use of Miracles
Jesus’ Apologetic Use of Resurrection
Jesus’ Apologetic Use of Reason
Jesus’ Apologetic Use of Parables
Jesus’ Apologetic Use of Discourse
Jesus’ Apologetic Use of Prophecy
Jesus’ Apologetic Use of Arguments for God

So if you want to be picky scripture is not intelligence. It is just the transference of intelligence. Try inspecting the mind behind it.

There is no evidence that the mind behind it is anything more than imagination. How is it possible to inspect the mind behind it? Bibles are mass produced in factories like a dean koontz novel

I see religions as the transference of imagination, why else would there be so much variety and illogical nonsense? The imagination however has a base which everyone can relate too.

Well a lot of culture as we know today is a result of the mind behind the OT.

Like I said you can inspect Jesus mind but you have to be good at philosophy first. That's why I referred you to Geisler's book.

They call Jesus "The Logos" because he personified reason. If all the evidence were lost in the world the fact that he is the Logos could be found by examining his words. Not many people without philosophy degrees would be able to spot this point of Geisler/Zukeran's though...they would just be stirred at a base level by the intuitive/common sense of his words...but the Logic is there. They've finally written a book on it.

My fault, i was under the impression this was a religion forum, and not a computer engineering forum. I get the 2 mixed up sometimes.
Can you prove this statement please?

So was Achilles the greatest warrior that ever lived too?

He says to chop off my hand if I masturbate that is not logical at all.

I am sure there was a great man who had a lot of influence, maybe he was called jesus or maybe it was something else which got changed to jesus, but what does that make of Buddha and Mohamed and all the other philosophers?

Surely you can appreciate how very often in cultures real things happen and then with the process of time and 'transference of intelligence' suddenly its mostly a load of 'bull****'. Ask yourself the question,

'Why do i beleive these stories and words'

'Why does a Muslim believe a different set of words?'

'Why did the nazis believe Hitler?'

'Why did the spartans live the lives they lived'

'Why did Pharaohs have so much power and influence over their nation?'

'What does a child who has no conndection to society believe'

'What did cavemen believe'

Why is there so much difference in belief? It is because of imagination, there is no proof that the bible actually has any intelligence or logic within it other than coincidence or common sense which many other people could have known without any interaction with Christianity.
ect ect

The answer to all of them is because the world around just happened to force it into them.

It is self evident.

Only to those who are spiritually blind.

You should be praying to Geebus, as he is the God of Luck and of lost souls.

DO I need a magic eye?


(Do I need some kind of gift to see some words in a book as truth rather than fiction)

Edit: just referring to miracles and personifications of what god is, mary having gods son, (stories) I dont know what is meant by being 'spiritually blind' and how physical words can show what spirit would be.

Ive been doing the "I will not get lucky" in my head thing for quite a while now. I have learned to play one hand at a time and reduced tilt to next to nothing over the past several months. I strictly made this post as a joke !

TY! this is all I was looking for when i made this thread!

Well in that case, no prayer needed. Just ship the $0.02 to negreanu and enjoy the heater.........

The right one, the only one that matters.... I.E. the one that created all things.

Not the comic book charactor God Thor.......

Oh thank god, I forgot all about gods of the past. Good to know, so about how long until today's gods become gods of the past? Because I'm really getting tired of all this christianity bull****, and I'm ready for some new god to come along and replace the christian one.

BTW, the answer to this is clearly Gamblor. While not technically a god, he is the monster that inhabits all of us gamblers, and I have heard that prayer calms his fiery soul.

Are you kidding? Thor is a cutting edge God...http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800369/

Haven't read the whole thread, so I'm not sure if anyone has answered your question yet or if there have only been jokes, so sorry if I'm repeating someone.

First, ignore what I have to say unless you believe the Bible is the word of God.

If you do believe this, you also believe everything that Jesus says. One thing that Jesus says is that you are to worship no one but him. He is the creator in human form. If you want a "name" to say when you pray, I'd suggest that name be Jesus.

If someone believes in the Torah/OT version of God your not supposed to say his name. Its like a no no and why you see a lot of people not even spell it out and instead write G-d.

If you believe in the Bible, you believe there is only one "right" version of God.

If you choose to believe in the Bible, you believe that "God" represents 3 things; the Father (the creator, and the one we don't see), the Son (Jesus, the one who took on human form to give us directions), and the Holy Spirit (the part that helps us distinguish between right-and-wrong).

If you don't choose to believe in the Bible, then it's a different story.

OP asks "whose name should I say when I pray?" This isn't the right question. The question you should be asking is "who do i pray to?" Once you have that figured out you'll know whose name to use.

Hey im just giving the info. Not all believers in Yahweh (even some Christians) think the name of God should be spoken. It dont bother me either which way though call him/she/it whatever you want.

Nothing in the New Testament says that it shouldn't be. IIR, the Old Testament says something about it, but personally I believe a lot of things in the OT should be regarded as laws of the land, and not God's law.

I'm a spiritual person, not a religious person. It's the religious groups who take things that aren't even in the Bible and make rules.

Religions are often the reason that people turn their back on God. I know a lot of people who grew up in baptist/methodist families, and they have this view of God as a mean person. Lot's of religions misconstue who God really is, and leave a lasting image in peoples minds. I'm constantly having to tell people "that's not who God is. The Bible says nothing about that".

How do you decide which are laws of the land and not Gods laws?