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09-21-2012 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Hopey
So when I think that a homeless person ranting at passerby is crazy, this belief isn't due to me being ruled by sin.

But when I read your posts for 6 years and come to the conclusion that you're mentally ill, this is solely due to my sinful nature?
I'm talking about your unbelief not your examples.

Unbelief and sin are related some how which I don't fully understand because I've never really been an unbeliever.

I would look into it if I were you.

I always feel like God helps me most when I try to discover his perspective on a matter. So maybe he will help you. Just don't give up when you don't get an easy pat answer.
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09-21-2012 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
then why don't I? If God wants a relationship with me, all he has to so is tell me. Speak to me. Show me he exists and I will bow down in sincere love and worship.

...So where is He?
"Faith is by hearing."

Why don't you find a church to hang out in and just listen. Don't be in a rush. I think people always think God has to be big and fast because of His reputation for miracles but if you read topics about God alot of people say they find Him in the still quiet voice.

You probably should read Thompson, too though he really addresses believers issues there most likely is a linkage to the problem of unbelief in his work.

He helps people personally identify snafus in obtaining mindfulness and attunement, etc.
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09-21-2012 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
It's easier and easier to deepen your disconnect from God when you let sin rule you.

A lot of people don't know it is ruling them though because they don't know how to examine themselves for it or that they should be examining and guarding against it.
Seems to describe the OP perfectly.
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09-21-2012 , 09:31 AM
It describes everyone.

I keep thinking atheists are like Moses in the bulrushes.

The Pharoah who's a lot like the devil tries to kill all of God's babies but the midwives foil his plot and when that doesn't work the world tries to disarrange their attachments and re-make them in the devil's image just like Moses was attached to Pharoah's sister and made to be like an Egyptian pharoah.
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09-21-2012 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Personally, I'd classify mockery right along in that category of "toxic rupture" though Thompson doesn't mention it. Mockery is conflict oriented. There's nothing peaceful in it's intent. So how can the source of it be existing peacefully?

haha i saw this quoted in hopey's post and just had to say something: splendour you've mocked me in more than one post, blatantly and insultingly!! wtf are you on about like you're some lilywhite do-gooder accusing others of behaviours you exhibit for all to see on this forum.

get a fkn grip man and join the rest of us in the real world!!!!!
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09-21-2012 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
I don't give a damn whether any atheist thinks I'm rational or not.
um. Its not just atheists who find your posts irrational.
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09-21-2012 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Hainesy_2KT
haha i saw this quoted in hopey's post and just had to say something: splendour you've mocked me in more than one post, blatantly and insultingly!! wtf are you on about like you're some lilywhite do-gooder accusing others of behaviours you exhibit for all to see on this forum.

get a fkn grip man and join the rest of us in the real world!!!!!
I didn't mock you.

You sided with this forum and launched a personal attack on me first.

Try reading the NT. You're suppose to help believers not attack them if you're really a believer.
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09-21-2012 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Yeah, well I don't know you in real life so I can't see the sin that is controlling you and making you make uninformed claims. Only you and God can know them.

Though a lot of atheists place so much pride in their own intellects that could be one of them.
Let's also not forget that Splendour has accused atheists on this board of being crazy. Normally I would point out to her that sin must be controlling her making her make uninformed claims but we all know that she happily dwells in hypocrisy. Its perfectly fine for her to diagnose others as mentally ill. When scores of people conclude that she is mentally ill then they are being controlled by sin.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!
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09-21-2012 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
I didn't mock you.

You sided with this forum and launched a personal attack on me first.

Try reading the NT. You're suppose to help believers not attack them if you're really a believer.


ok then, allow me to make my tone more friendly: splendour, you really could do with learning how to engage with people and communicate with them in ways that they might actually appreciate, which may in turn lead to them giving your views more consideration, and not feeling compelled to insult you.

jesus was a master of talking to people on a level that they engaged with and couldn't help but listen to. jokes aside, you kind of have the diametrically opposite affect, and come across as incredibly self-justifying and blinkered. nobody is ganging up on you, i disagree with most every poster on this forum, but there's a reason why literally everybody is telling you the same thing. do yourself some favours and come round a little bit.

real talk
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09-22-2012 , 05:48 AM
One flew over the 2+2 forums.
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