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Old 09-13-2017, 01:20 AM   #1
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God is dead

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Old 09-13-2017, 01:21 AM   #2
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always has been
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:03 PM   #3
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Wow, what a brilliant thread, and such brilliant argumentation.
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:26 AM   #4
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To be fair to the OP, you generally have to be 'alive' before you are 'dead.
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Old 09-21-2017, 06:10 PM   #5
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Dead or not - God is useful.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:08 PM   #6
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God "remains" dead.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:47 PM   #7
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Old 09-22-2017, 09:11 PM   #8
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And rose 3 days later
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Old 09-24-2017, 11:25 AM   #9
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"Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."

Gospel of Thomas, verse 18
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Old 10-06-2017, 03:44 PM   #10
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Dead or not - God is useful.
Which God?
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Old 10-06-2017, 06:19 PM   #11
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“God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?”

Friedrich Nietzsche
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:26 AM   #12
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:14 AM   #13
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:33 PM   #14
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This got me in the mood to read some Nietzsche
Nietzsche got me in the mood to read some God.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:21 AM   #15
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Which book of God though?
Twilight of the Golden Cows
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Old 12-26-2017, 11:00 AM   #16
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Maybe before the universe there was God, and possibly He even existed in physics. We might see Him in the laws of nature.

As far as God being dead if he is beyond life-physics, He is dead only as far as known physics goes, just saying that He doesn't exist in our known universe, that he is not alive (anymore), but dead? I don't know about that.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:34 AM   #17
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Nietzsche's words are meant to describe the end of Christian beliefs as he saw it in the late 1800s, and ultimately the end of belief in universal morals and the rise of nihilism.

It's also one of the most misunderstood concepts of modern philosophy, and is very often misused even on these forums. Nietzsche is not saying that belief in God is necessary for moral values, he is saying that attributing all moral values to belief in God will lead to nihilism when this belief ends. The criticism is aimed at Christianity, for facilitating nihilism.

Essentially he saying we need to find moral grounding outside belief in God, or nihilism will rise. Which is bad.

This is of course paraphrased to a level simplicity that probably isn't healthy, but it should be better than a lot of the bad interpretations I have seen thrown around in religious discussion over the years.
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Old 01-03-2018, 05:06 PM   #18
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Important clarification by Tame. Much of Nietzsche's work is misunderstood or distorted or otherwise mauled, by many intentionally, by others not so much or in an honest attempt at understanding that goes awry. Nietzsche's tone, style, and way of expression is easily misinterpreted. He appears to dissemble but his aim is true. His prose borders on philosophic poetry.
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