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07-03-2010 , 02:06 PM

#26

BrokeDonk

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God is a cruel, sadistic monster for making you play the game in the first place by creating you.

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07-03-2010 , 03:18 PM

#27

tame_deuces

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Well, he's either dumb or cruel.

This is because either he likes tormenting his creation, or he does not know how to best get it to act accordingly to plan.

Ofcourse he could be operating at some unscrutinable level, but I'll name as I see it. Atleast I go by the available evidence, instead of hope.

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07-03-2010 , 04:25 PM

#28

sockhead2

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Originally Posted by Stu Pidasso

I'm glad your not joining those who think free willed beings should not bear the ramifications of their own actions and instead place that burden on another.

Because how I think people should behave has some bearing on whether or not an all powerful being exists and created the world?

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07-03-2010 , 04:29 PM

#29

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I'm glad your not joining those who think free willed beings should not bear the ramifications of their own actions and instead place that burden on another.

Thats not what Jesus said...

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07-04-2010 , 04:03 PM

#30

madnak

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Originally Posted by Stu Pidasso

Is God cruel for deciding He doesn't want you in His place ever even if that means you would be subject to eternal torment?

Yes.

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07-04-2010 , 06:16 PM

#31

vixticator

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I though God was all-loving, he can't dislike people.

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07-04-2010 , 09:01 PM

#32

bunny

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Originally Posted by Stu Pidasso

What difference does it make? Suppose God is just seperating the good eggs from the bad and letting each group work out its own lot. As expected the good eggs are good to each other which culminates in a happy environment. The bad eggs are bad to each other which culminates in an unhappy environment.

Would it not be an injustice toward the good eggs if the bad eggs were allowed into thier group to spoil their lot? Suppose such a system maximizes happiness, would you still think it cruel that God sends a soul to a place He knows that soul will be tormented eternally?

Why not just make good eggs and let them freely choose to be nice to each other?

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07-05-2010 , 10:56 AM

#33

Stu Pidasso

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Originally Posted by bunny

Why not just make good eggs and let them freely choose to be nice to each other?

I just don't think God would create Carebear world.

Maybe you haven't seen this thread I started long ago(you might have been soul searching or on walkabout or what ever it is you downunderers do)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...design-420814/

Given the assumptions in that thread, I think God would have been as hands off as possible concerning the creation of man.

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07-05-2010 , 11:21 AM

#34

batair

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I just don't think God would create Carebear world.

Heaven just died a little bit, again.

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07-05-2010 , 11:32 AM

#35

Stu Pidasso

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Originally Posted by batair

Heaven just died a little bit, again.

You think the preception amoung all theists is that Heaven is a carebear world where everyone treats everyone else with the love and respect they deserve/want? You haven't read about Lucifer's fall have you?

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07-05-2010 , 11:37 AM

#36

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Who said all, some theist dont even believe in a heaven. For the one who do though its usually a carebear world.

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07-05-2010 , 11:42 AM

#37

Stu Pidasso

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Who said all, some theist dont even believe in a heaven. For the one who do though its usually a carebear world.

It probably is pretty close to carebear world now that God filters out all the riff-raff. It wasn't always that way you know.

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07-05-2010 , 11:54 AM

#38

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It probably is pretty close to carebear world now that God filters out all the riff-raff. It wasn't always that way you know.

God is perfection anything that takes away that perfection takes away form Gods perfection. Therefor heaven has to be a perfect carebear world or it will taint God. At least thats what the Church told me.

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07-05-2010 , 11:57 AM

#39

Stu Pidasso

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You already decided those people were liars but you still use them as the foundation of your arguments? Stand up and think for yourself man!

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07-05-2010 , 12:25 PM

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You already decided those people were liars but you still use them as the foundation of your arguments? Stand up and think for yourself man!

Im going under the assumption God Almighty and his carebear netherworld called heaven is real.

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07-05-2010 , 12:30 PM

#41

Stu Pidasso

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Im going under the assumption God Almighty and his carebear netherworld called heaven is real.

nobody believes the bs your spouting here.

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07-05-2010 , 12:50 PM

#42

batair

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nobody believes the bs your spouting here.

Which bs is that?

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07-05-2010 , 12:59 PM

#43

Stu Pidasso

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Which bs is that?

all the unbelievable bs you posted silly.

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07-05-2010 , 12:59 PM

#44

batair

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all bs you posted silly.

Oh ok that clears that up.

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07-05-2010 , 01:02 PM

#45

Stu Pidasso

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Originally Posted by batair

Oh ok that clears that up.

In all seriousness....pick a post you made in this thread try to convince us it ain't bs......hilarity is sure it ensue.

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07-05-2010 , 01:04 PM

#46

batair

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In all seriousness....pick a post you made in this thread try to convince us it ain't bs......hilarity is sure it ensue.

Not necessary im ok with you making heaven less then a perfect carebear world.

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07-05-2010 , 06:48 PM

#47

bunny

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Originally Posted by Stu Pidasso

Maybe you haven't seen this thread I started long ago(you might have been soul searching or on walkabout or what ever it is you downunderers do)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...design-420814/

Given the assumptions in that thread, I think God would have been as hands off as possible concerning the creation of man.

I was appeasing my wife - from time to time she decides that I spend too much time posting on 'those silly forums' and should instead do....something else. I've learnt that in such situations it's fruitful for me to freely choose to do exactly what she wants me to do.

With respect to the argument in your earlier thread, I reject most arguments along the lines of "We would expect God to do the following..." I don't think we have any ability to understand such things.

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Originally Posted by Stu Pidasso

I just don't think God would create Carebear world.

Wouldnt that be 'more' benevolent than making this one?