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Originally Posted by uke_master
huh? You don't oppose a ban on the thing you want to do?
Yes, it's actually possible for people to not feel strongly about every issue.
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Thankfully, herd immunity is achieved for the big infectious diseases in most of the first world. So the gain is very small (as is the risk). A quick google says the chance of dying of measles is 1 in 300,000,000. Crazy small. If we were not able to achieve the rates of herd immunity without force then there might be an argument for it, but it appears we are able to do that.
According to this article, in the prognosis section:
http://emedicine.medscape.com/articl...ew#aw2aab6b2b5
"The CDC reports the childhood mortality rate from measles infection in the United States to be 0.1-0.2%. However, many complications and sequelae may develop (see Complications), and measles is a major cause of childhood blindness in developing countries."
From the same article in the background section:
"A single dose of measles vaccine administered to a child older than 12 months induces protective immunity in 95% of recipients. Because measles virus is highly contagious, a 5% susceptible population is sufficient to sustain periodic outbreaks in otherwise highly vaccinated populations.
A second dose of vaccine, now recommended for all school-aged children in the United States,[2] induces immunity in about 95% of the 5% who do not respond to the first dose. ...
Considering that for industrialized countries such as the United States, endemic transmission of measles may be reestablished if measles immunity falls to less than 93-95%"
We also see this:
http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com...ccination.aspx
"This year’s jump in measles in the United States and Canada was costly and occurred among unvaccinated children and adults"
And it costs us money too: "An outbreak of measles in spring 2011 in Salt Lake County, Utah, began when an unvaccinated local high school student returned home after traveling in Europe, where he was infected. Rapid response to control the outbreak limited it to nine people in Salt Lake County, yet managing the outbreak cost approximately 300,000 for infection control measures by two local hospitals and the local and state health departments."
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Meh, just because people are idiots doesn't mean I want to force their behaviour. Should we force people to eat broccoli and not Lays?
When their idiotic behaviors cause unnecessary risk to their children and other children in the community, we very much can and should force their behaviors.