Please quote a post of mine in which I lied, and I will retract my false statement and apologize for making it.

Small caveat: I might be guilty of hyperbole sometimes. For example, even though I said that you "never" actually engage the content of posts, that statement is not literally true, although it is certainly true a vast percentage of the time.

We can say that our individual satisfaction in life is going to depend on how much meaning is present in our lives, and the meaning in our lives is dependent on how much we participate in the (meta) Narrative of life. Viewing the world through an evolutionary framework, fitness has been a huge part of the Narrative, so it has been hugely meaningful. Fitness describes both reproductive success and how well adapted to the environment an organism is.

Due to our success, fitness is no longer as meaningful for the modern human. Referring back to the Adam story, that leaves us with the choice to work in order to distract from the lack of meaning and/or to eat from the forbidden fruit. The way modern society has settled on dealing with this issue is to promote a lifestyle of (evolutionary) fitness, work, and to only nibble the forbidden fruit to the degree that does not arouse and call forth the tyrannical ruler.

That solution has worked well enough for the majority of people, so we have constructed our society on this framework. Further, we will need to put effort into improving and preserving this lifestyle in order to prevent destabilization, chaos, and destruction.

However, soon enough simply nibbling the forbidden fruit is no longer going to be meaningful enough for more and more people because the Narrative of life doesn’t simply stop at fitness. The evolutionary filters continue. If an external aspect of nature has been the great selector of the fitness filters, then an internal aspect of nature, or the Holy Spirit in Christian language, is the great selector of these next evolutionary filters, which I call “filters of Reality”. And just like how external nature requires the death of countless unfit versions of organisms, inner nature also requires countless versions of ourselves to die.

Your entire manner of dealing with me is deceitful. Because it is the only thing that can save your positions. Craig is even worse ... he's in a deluded kindergarten imagining he's a PhD ... spewing cult speak. Your (sic) just an apologist who does what he has to do to defend, instead of what he has to to establish the credibility of claims.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Then it should be easy to cite one specific example, shouldn't it?

Satan is the great imitator and master of deception. His highest priority is to intercept us from direct experience with God.

This is the level of sacrifice God demands from us, but it is usually more than we are capable of enacting. That leaves two options: (1) turn away from the burden of sacrifice and, with that, turn away from God, or (2) compromise with Satan. It is said that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. More precisely, the fear of the future consequences from turning away from God - that is the beginning of wisdom. In other words, the wise person does not choose option 1.

Still, there are some compromises with Satan that are even worse choices than option 1. The idea that others can be sacrificed in our place instead is a compromise with Satan that has left a vile mark in human history.

One compromise with Satan that is superior to turning away from God is the idea that Jesus paid the sacrifice required. Inherent in this narrative is the preservation of the idea that God requires a significant sacrifice from each of us. Nevertheless, it is still a compromise with Satan and eventually has to be transcended by humanity. Fortunately, the Jesus story (and Christianity at large) has the depth of truth to be undermined in this way and endure.

This is like the skit where the woman is screaming at her husband to leave her alone, get out, and I never want to see you again. He says: "What are you trying to say?" She screams it at him again. He says again: "What are you trying to say?" It's overt denialism which in itself contains no fly zones, ducked and blocked, in the pursuit of some preconceived notion.

It's quite fascinating to watch Fella's fact-free diatribe continue. Maybe he's revealing more about his personal life than he intends here.

The highest version of God is Abraxas: symbol of paradox, cause of dread, and impetus for transformation.

Transformation is the only way to remain in connection with God and to progress toward the sacred wedding. Christ is ‘Man becoming’. ‘Man becoming’ is the Messiah.

Man becomes. Then, Man lays down his life for the Son. The Son sits on the throne.

How do you know this? Why is it not just more religious babble like all the other ones? Are you a prophet?

What do you think? How about Aaron, carlo or lag, or me? Maybe Original?

How about you?

Have you not referred to Jung and the Gnostics previously on this forum? It is either possible that what is unintelligible to rationality can be made known or it isn’t.

I’ve mentioned how the Prodigal Son story, which is about the individual taking ownership over their meaning, is the foundational story in which the other stories stack on top. When people experience meaning deficit, often they will get stuck in the pattern of debating others about beliefs. While that might somewhat scratch the itch in the short-term, it doesn’t provide a lasting solution.

The way to break this habit is to flip your focus away from the external and onto yourself in order to make a push to take more ownership over the meaning in your life. Never mind the rationalizations, which no doubt will seem convincing, for the impulse to debate about beliefs. Do this exercise and then notice how the impulse to seek out opponents for debate diminishes. Trust what works over what makes sense.

It isn't spoon fed to them from gods who choose them over the others. Knowledge can be attained rationally, but revelations about and from god do not fit in that category.

Anyone of us is capable of it if it is about being inspired by some ultimate source or underlying nature of things ... but as far as being inspired by thousands of years old magic divinity stories espoused by superstitious cultures ... not so much.

So, if someone like Nikola Tesla considered himself to be in contact with and inspired by what we might today call the quantum field, that seems a different category than someone swallowing one of the magic stories. The difference is the reality test. Does the paradigm respect what is real, about what maps to reality? Or is it fanciful in the face of this test? Or, do we exempt it from this test in order to believe it?

God and Devil are features of Abraxas. One cannot exist without the other. Both God and Devil have a higher and lower aspect. The higher aspect of God is wholeness and life generation. It is associated with Heaven. The lower aspect is goodness and good feeling, which is associated with the external world.

The human being stands in between the lower and higher aspects of God, in between the world and Heaven. Adam and Eve represent the human ego. Eve desires the lower aspect of God - comfort, reassurance, and goodness. Adam is caught in between Eve and the “New Man” or Christ, who desires the higher aspect of God - wholeness.

Much like how God and Devil are linked, Christ is linked to Satan. Whatever Christ desires, Satan desires the opposite. Since Christ desires the higher aspect of God (wholeness), Satan compels Adam toward the lower aspect (Eve), if not toward destruction which is also God’s opposite. The higher aspect of God is represented by the Tree of Life. Christ is represented by the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. To eat the forbidden fruit (Christ) is to bring forth Satan.

Since God and Devil cannot be separated, Christ who desires wholeness, is associated with incompleteness and death. In other words, Christ seeks wholeness in the domain of the Devil. When Adam eats the forbidden fruit, he transcends the external world, which is the world of good and evil associated with the lower aspect of God + Devil. The higher aspect, wholeness + degeneration, is associated with the internal world of the human individual. Nietzsche spoke of a “higher man” and wrote a book called Beyond Good and Evil.

Nihilism is the place of incompleteness, associated with despair, in which the truth of the good + evil external world is revealed as dead and meaningless to the Higher Man.

Still, the dead external world is good. The higher aspect of God cannot be completely separated from the lower. After transcending the external world, the Higher man must, in the spirit of Sisyphus, heroically re-engage.

Is there anyone that is still able to track, or have I lost everyone?

Try starting over. You don't know what god thinks, all your blather is cult speak with no foundation verifiable or distinguishable from any of the other true believer systems, and it seems strange to have a good news that loses everybody in its dissemination and apparently considers such a self-compliment.

H.L. Mencken: "It is only the savage, whether of the African bush or the American gospel tent, who PRETENDS to know the will and intent of god..."

Here (important):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OIZMGEQ298

Who do you think you had, that you lost?

I don’t think that and never claimed that.

I’m under no illusion that anyone who has refused to take their medicine is going to finally start taking it based on my posts, but it’s still useful to expose more about what the experience is like.

There seems to be a pattern that only once something is rejected or transcended can its full value be realized. It’s like we have to be completely free agents, something like that.

People think that they have chosen their frames and values freely, but the test is if those attachments can be fully rejected. We are to value free choice over our current frame and values, which requires that we keep ourselves in check by constantly rejecting what we rely on.

Narrative, goodness, God, hatred. Those have all been most valuable to me after I have already rejected/transcended them and am no longer attached or reliant.

What we are repulsed by doesn’t work in the same way. What is repulsive provides no value and its highest value cannot be unlocked until it is transcended. Further, it cannot be transcended until it is accepted. Transcendence is apparently rejection after acceptance.

Pain and suffering are to viewed in this way. Suffering is to be transcended, which means it has to be accepted. Same with death. It is a constant battle since suffering and death are naturally repulsive to us.

Correction: transcendence is simultaneously and consciously holding both acceptance and rejection. What we are repulsed by only requires that we consciously hold acceptance since rejection is already present, and what we are attached to only requires that we hold rejection since acceptance is already present.

The highest truths are paradoxical or contradictory. That pattern keeps showing up.

To reject life is to transcend life, and to accept death is to transcend death. Christ transcends life and death.

To transcend life and death is to unlock its full value.

Look at how the puzzle pieces end up nicely fitting together.