Revelation 16:2


Read Isiah 5:20 you do evil and call it good that is why THE LORD YOUR GOD will smite you with plague after plague until you repent and obey.

Those who worship THE LORD are immune to this plague but the proud and haughty who obstinately repent not will be cast into the everlasting fires of hell.

Isaiah 5:20


you murder your babies because you don't want to deal with the consequences of your sexual promiscuity

you pollute and corrupt the minds of impressionable children with filth because it makes you feel better about the abomination you yourself have become

you lust after each other with unnatural lust using each other like sexual objects teaching yourself to use everyone in all walks of your life

your gluttony betrays your lack of control all you do is eat and drink until you are fat and obese while billions of people starve around the world


you are profane and vulgar and use THE LORD's name in vain


you lie around idle day after day watching the most wicked and depraved movies and tv shows grotesquely masturbating your days away to filthy pornography

you greedy descendants of Cain repent and obey THE LORD you cannot take even a single cent of your wealth with you beyond the grave

your envy and your anger quicken your descent into hell when you do not forgive others their debts what fools you are to expect THE LORD to forgive you yours


Genesis 49:18


you foul hypocrites, you sanctimonious demons, you fighters of wars and stealers of liberty, when will you repent and do good to each other by worshipping THE LORD?

God Himself will strike you down with plague after plague

those who humble themselves and admit the error of their ways can accept THE LORD's divine mercy and grace




but the proud and the obstinate who are too busy doing evil to be bothered by God's warnings will face eternal judgment in the unquenchable fires of hell

when God smites people down with plagues, it is a warning they need to change their behavior

when God smites people down with plague upon plagues, it's a sign they are not listening and obstinate in their rebellion against God and the natural order.

there can be only one fate for the willfully disobedient who continue to do evil and call it good

repent and worship THE LORD - there is still time

You become perfect first. Only then should you save the souls of others.

"I have a zealot mentality ... and I choose this one particular religion to gush it into." Check.

we are not required to be perfect we are sinners required to be humble enough to acknowledge God is God and we are nothing, and to repent of our former lifestyle and evil ways

then we are to become "better" more ordered and at peace oriented towards God

there are no "good" people nor perfect people only God is good

apart from God is everlasting increase in entropy, chaos, and disorder - including within a person's soul


we do not save souls God saves souls but He may act through us and does so that other people can see and have hope


behold-

another plague is upon you. when will you take a hint that you and your society's evil ways are being judged by God?

Apart from the enemy, who stands in the God position, is everlasting increase in entropy, chaos, and disorder - including within a personÂ’s soul.

If peace, order, and brokenness are all you require, then the lord of this world will keep you captivated.

What belongs to the father belongs to the son. Congratulations to the one who makes his stand and demands perfection, for he knows that he belongs to the Father in Heaven who is perfect.

When will you understand that disease is a natural phenomenon from way before the Bible showed up?

When will the smart person understand that when he refuses to lower himself and serve, he becomes a slave. And when he protects his life, he loses it.

Me for one I'm all for serving. It's the killing of millions of babies and fetuses, little things like that, that if they are apocryphal could be the salvation of the decency and humanity of the religion.

women and men who abort babies are no different from the canaanites who sacrificed their children to demons throwing them in the fire

it is demonic exceedingly wicked and evil behavior to murder innocent life to escape the consequences of sexual promiscuity

God made them male and female. male and female He created them

thou shalt not lie with a man as thou lies with a woman

proliferation of pronouns and unnatural lust are demonic corruptions bad enough to defile yourself but even worse to pollute and foul up the minds of children

it is sin and rebellion against God

if someone asks why God would kill so many people with plagues or destroy their civilization from off the face of the earth the answer is simple-

those people and their civilization are so evil the only good thing to do is for others to be saved and for them to be destroyed

Do you even know when you are just reciting doctrine ... or is there any actual independent thinking operating in your mind?

If there is an evil king wreaking havoc, responsible for countless death and suffering, what value is there in critical commentary? Will a strong man not intervene by laying down his own life in order to serve the prince and lead him to insurrection?

Is God not sovereign over all? Or is that hidden from you when it’s time for justice?

all souls have free will all souls must overcome original sin

everyone has an equal chance at salvation those who are born more fortunate God gives thorns in their side to humble them those born into worse backgrounds are given gifts or more blessings

all souls must account for their actions in life and who they have become upon Judgment there are no excuses God is exceedingly merciful but just

Each soul is sovereign over its salvation?

Is the God who saves souls not sovereign then? Who can be more sovereign over existence, including sin, than the God who saves souls?

Let the one who is divided and confused not preach to others but rather repent and baptize himself in truth.

sir you are far from the truth and far from salvation

look at this self-worship and pride:


https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=213


https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/n...ply&p=57288634


please seek out a psychologist and a priest

Judgment awaits each of us. Not for the actions of others but for our own.

wrong. judgement is for the damned

salvation awaits those in Jesus Christ

I’ll leave you with this brother:

There are times when we need to be humble and re-trace our steps for the sake of our soul. We should go back to the beginning.

Here is the beginning:
-Love God
-Love our neighbor as ourselves
-Judge not lest ye be judged

Oh yes ... the doctrine of Original Sin: God kills every child and fetus on earth because of something that adults did in the Garden of Eden thousands of years before. Very nice. Very moral. It's millions of times more horrendous than flying airplanes into buildings ... and comes from the exact same place of zealous belief.

"I'm all for the indiscriminate killing of millions of children ... and I consider it a loving and righteous part of the doctrine of my religion. If He does it again, I'm good with it. We are moral like that ... and we know about holiness. Amen."

So what did we get from the zealot club about disease greatly predating the Bible ... and why now it is god's revenge, or better yet, god's justice. So germs are just another form of like smiting a whole city with fire and brimstone for the zealots, right?

nothing predates the Bible


John 1:1



judgment is justice not the plagues the plagues gradually escalate and are meant to correct the wayward soul's behavior

read Exodus there are speeches then signs and wonders and finally warnings, inconveniences, pain suffering, consequences, death and judgment


sodom and gomorrah would have been spared if there had been even ten souls worth saving

there were not ten souls there were 1-4 borderline who could still maybe be saved and even then down to the last one God personally intervened and delivered them out of harm's way

God created every soul as a baby small and humble fearful and in awe of the surrounding world around us

Ignatius of Loyola would describe this as an inclination towards God


Exodus 4:29-31


Moses is God's laws and Aaron is the preacher. THE LORD visited the children of Israel as JESUS CHRIST and the people bowed their heads and worshipped.

because of original sin God has given us His laws to obey and God's servants preach His laws and show signs and wonders so that people may not go astray


Exodus 5:1-2


the unrepentant sinner hearkens not to preaching they have set their heart on doing that evil thing which they have decided they want to do to satiate their own selfish desires


Exodus 7:10


if preaching doesn't work, there are signs and wonders

God's messengers perform signs and wonders every day through the tools they have, their vocations and skills, doing great works in the world, miraculous healings, works of mercy

many people believe when they see God's love and His signs and wonders and they set their heart toward God and obey His commandments


Exodus 7:14


but for the unrepentant sinner whose heart is not turned towards God neither by preaching, nor by signs and wonders, nor by great works of love and mercy in the world, there are the plagues

the plagues are gradually increasing warnings, inconveniences, pain suffering, consequences, finally destruction, death, and judgment meant to correct the wayward soul and stop them from continually doing that evil thing they want to keep doing

Exodus 7:20 (The First Plague)


for the soul that wants to do that selfish evil thing they are thinking about doing- this is their warning

Creation is full of natural disasters and phenomena so vast and powerful compared to our insignificance

we are meant to be humble and in awe of God and His Creation around us


Exodus 7:23


many people don't sin because they are humble and afraid

but the proud and arrogant fool looks down on others they think "backward" their heart is far removed from fears and warnings

this sinner has decided to give into temptation and do that evil thing which their heart wants to do because they think they can get away with it


Exodus 8:1-4 (The Second Plague)


for the tempted sinner who has decided in their heart to do that selfish evil thing they want to do-

God has designed Creation in such a way that they will face inconveniences and annoyances

many people turn away from sin because they deem that evil thing they want to do is not worth the hassle or trouble


Exodus 8:8


that is what is represented here by Pharoah's bargaining the calculation being made in the sinner's mind whether that particular sin is worth the hassle


Exodus 8:15


the unrepentant sinner decides fulfilling their evil selfish desire is worth it they are willing to put up with inconveniences and hassles to do that evil thing they want to do and then justify themselves in their own mind


Exodus 8:16 (The Third Plague)


the third plague comes without warning because the unrepentant sinner has already decided they will put up with any inconvenience to do that evil thing they want to keep doing

they have grown so accustomed to these inconveniences this third plague is now personally on their body not just their surroundings


Exodus 8:19


the unrepentant sinner has decided no amount of moderate inconveniences will stop them from doing that evil thing they want to keep doing

for these wayward souls who continually seek to do evil and call it good hurting and deceiving others then justifying their desires in their own mind-

God escalates to increasing amounts of pain and suffering and consequences in the next set of plagues all meant to cause them to repent and change their evil ways