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11-29-2017 , 07:20 PM
If you are afraid of negative afterlives like eternal damnation in Hell, Hades, reincarnation into something you wouldn't want to be reincarnated into, etc., which religion would you choose to avoid that religion's bad afterlife, lol?
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11-29-2017 , 07:29 PM
No worries. The binary nature of the universe indicates a postmortem future life for all.
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12-04-2017 , 05:17 AM
I'll go to the Jewish hell since that doesn't exist. If that is considered cheating, I'll choose the Egyptian hell since that one you are burned up quickly and isn't eternal.

Here is a Wikipedia page on hell:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell

Since this isn't a real life decision I haven't focused hard on my choice. If you really want to go in depth, I advise reading the whole Wikipedia page.
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12-05-2017 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
No worries. The binary nature of the universe indicates a postmortem future life for all.
Please provide an argument. Thanks in advance.
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12-26-2017 , 10:32 AM
To be safe, I might take Buddhism, as they believe into a rather instant rebirth (in case they believe into a rebirth at all) at the nearest place (it often seems), that as so can't be as much hell as one migt deserve. Although one might need to pick the exact type of Buddhism to be more sure (Dalai Lama's seems safe, Tibetan Buddhism), as I am sure there are some ideas (in Jainish also?) that one might spend a life or more in Hell, as Buddhists do have their maps also, for the hell-beings and related planets.
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01-02-2018 , 01:17 AM
Jesus said;

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"They fear death who know not love and whose conscience is not tranquil.

Always just is the hour of death, because it is given by God.
http://www.bardstown.com/~brchrys/Death.html
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But if I see that death is decreed, I then take this brother of mine, who is trembling before the mystery of death and calling to Me, and I say, ‘Do not fear. You think it is darkness - it is light. You think it is pain - it is joy. Give Me your hand. I know death. I experienced it before you. I know that it is an instant and that God supernaturally comes to your aid to deaden the force of the sensorial so as not to demoralize the soul in its final struggle. Be trusting. Look at Me. Me alone.... There! Do you see? You have crossed the threshold. Come with Me now, to the Father. Do not fear now, either. I am with you. The Father loves those I love.’
http://www.notebook44.strefa.pl/jun_14.htm#fifth

Also, Mary is said to have spoken this;
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Those who do the bidding of the false prophet will need much prayer, for some of them are blind to the Truth. Others, who will know the Truth, but who will side with those who will deny my Son’s death on the Cross, are to be feared. They will inflict terrible harm on the innocent followers of Christ.
https://fatherofloveandmercy.wordpre...o-seek-refuge/
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01-25-2018 , 10:57 PM
Jesus said:

"They fear death who know not love and whose conscience is not tranquil.

http://www.bardstown.com/~brchrys/Death.html
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01-31-2018 , 07:28 AM
If only there was a philosophy that didn't rely on gods or hell to strike fear into people and have them do what you wish.

Like, without theism.

By the way how can you "choose" your religion for simple reasons like "I don't like this part of it" when those who believe it say the "proof" for their beliefs are widespread and totally obvious. Religious people always tell me they know it all and that I just need to be open for the evidence to show itself, how can you simply abandon this when you've ****ed up and don't want to go to hell? The same god is still going to send you to hell because you don't believe in him any more (if he was in fact real).
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01-31-2018 , 08:02 AM
I'm in that afterlife now, it's too late.
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01-31-2018 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Froggle
Jesus said:

"They fear death who know not love and whose conscience is not tranquil.

http://www.bardstown.com/~brchrys/Death.html
Yeah, he wasn't very well educated for the son of god, or maybe he's just doing a trump and being a bit misleading since there are obviously people who know love, whose consciences are tranquil, and still fear death.
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02-01-2018 , 06:17 AM
I love when believers break out quotes from their magic book like it’s supposed to be profound.
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02-01-2018 , 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
If only there was a philosophy that didn't rely on gods or hell to strike fear into people and have them do what you wish.

Like, without theism.

By the way how can you "choose" your religion for simple reasons like "I don't like this part of it" when those who believe it say the "proof" for their beliefs are widespread and totally obvious. Religious people always tell me they know it all and that I just need to be open for the evidence to show itself, how can you simply abandon this when you've ****ed up and don't want to go to hell? The same god is still going to send you to hell because you don't believe in him any more (if he was in fact real).
I think for the hypothetical's sake you can just assume it is possible to choose.
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02-01-2018 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
I love when believers break out quotes from their magic book like it’s supposed to be profound.
I love when unbelievers break out quotes from their cranium like it's supposed to be profound.
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02-01-2018 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I love when unbelievers break out quotes from their cranium like it's supposed to be profound.
That would be the vast majority of the world's population then, including all the Christians who don't share your literal interpretation of the bible and therefore don't believe what you believe and are also 'unbelievers'. You, and people like you, are actually in a very very small minority, so you must live in a state of perpetual bliss.

Lucky you.
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02-01-2018 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mcpon14
If you are afraid of negative afterlives like eternal damnation in Hell, Hades, reincarnation into something you wouldn't want to be reincarnated into, etc., which religion would you choose to avoid that religion's bad afterlife, lol?
Regarding the question it sounds like the religion you choose would be the one who's afterlife is real. Thus we must choose the religion with the worst afterlife for non-believers.

We'll ignore non-major religions and it's impossible to take into account all all the smaller variants. So I'll only consider Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism and Buddhism and their major variants.

All of these religions except Christianity have influential variants where you can attain grace (and thus avoid damnation) even if you are not a believer.

So basically we end up with Christianity, because it's the only one major religion lacking influential variants where salvation is possible without worship. I'm sure you can find smaller variants that say otherwise or that theological debate on the subject exists, however.
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02-01-2018 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces

So basically we end up with Christianity, because it's the only one major religion lacking influential variants where salvation is possible without worship. I'm sure you can find smaller variants that say otherwise or that theological debate on the subject exists, however.
Non-believers can't go to heaven.
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02-01-2018 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Froggle
It does not matter what religion. I will eliminate what needs to be eliminated. At a twinkling of an eye it will be done. This is your Father Jehovah, with Jesus Christ of Nazareth and the Holy Spirit speaking as ONE with all the Power and the Might that there is. Be ready; be prepared, for the end is before you. (over)
God is a bit if a dufus isn't he, he could have created us all to be believers since he decided everything that will ever be in 'the twinkling of an eye' but for some reason he screwed up made people that don't believe in him and now he has to 'eliminate' them (and he talks like someone in a bad spy movie).
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02-02-2018 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Froggle

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Didn't see anything in there that disagreed with me, so I'll take it you agree that god is a bit of a dufus. If you do disagree, you'll have to make it more clear.

I don't know why you make everything a link, I am never going to click on any of them unless you engage like a normal person and stop preaching at me.
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02-02-2018 , 06:54 AM
Most of Froggle's posts (though not all) seem mostly like some kind of programming exercise in artificial communication. Aka. spam 2.0
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02-02-2018 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I love when unbelievers break out quotes from their cranium like it's supposed to be profound.
LOL oh I know what I said wasn’t profound, it was merely common sense.
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02-03-2018 , 04:31 AM
Froggle is right guys. We are all going to hell and there is nothing we can do about it. Thanks Froggle, your words are worth more than gold.
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02-03-2018 , 06:34 AM
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Froggle is right guys. We are all going to hell and there is nothing we can do about it. Thanks Froggle, your words are worth more than gold.
Your words are worth hell, there is nothing Froggle can do about it, we guys are right more than Froggle and gold is all we going to, thanks.
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02-03-2018 , 08:49 AM
Can I make fun of Froggle as an individual as well as his ideas?
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02-04-2018 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Can I make fun of Froggle as an individual as well as his ideas?
In the privacy of your own home, yes you can.
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