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Originally Posted by jontsef
We're ahead of Turkey! There is hope for us yet.
Damn US is second lowest?
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Originally Posted by batair
That's bad but it's in a town and we would be living in a city. Doesn't that make a difference?
That's the kind of examples that Europeans hear about so that's probably where my concern comes from but I know it's only the worst cases I've heard of.
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Originally Posted by No.1 pencil
Not good parents.
And I have to admit that my hidden agenda is to get more secularists to move into religious communities. How can secularism ever prevail if people practice avoidance out of fear?
You can be as good as parent as it's possible, but children will still compare them to their peers, like they should. Children shouldn't be living like their parents since they're from a different generation. I'll do my best as parent but I'm not going/want to be the only influence in their lives.
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Originally Posted by Jules_SA
Ok, FIRST of all, I want to understand your guys' situation. So YOU (the man) are a Baptist. You believe in god, and from what I can tell from some of your posts, do not agree with the idea of evolution. Your partner (the woman) believes in evolution.
Now, I need you to answer this question. If or when you have children, do you plan to:
A) Teach them that creationism is true.
B) Teach them that evolution is true. or
C) Not tell them either, and have them make up their own minds as they get older.
Reply, and I will tell you how it is next.
In Europe that's different. People combine belief with evolution here so I never thought that it should be one or the other. I want to say C but I know I'll have a hard time not saying anything about evolution. We already discussed this though and he's fine with me doing this.
I would tell them about it but I would definitely not mind if they decide to believe in something else.
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Originally Posted by Butcho22
oh, and don't just tell them its true, show them the evidence. (obviously this won't happen at a super young age)
Yea it's hard not to do this when you grew up with it.
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Originally Posted by Bill Haywood
I don't worry about my kids absorbing extremism. A kid who is not habituated to going to church will never see the point of intensely boring sermons.
I'm not worried about them absorbing extremism. I'm worried if they'll have to defend their beliefs daily. Childhood shouldn't be a
daily struggle.
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Originally Posted by einbert
Don't move to the South. Don't move to Texas, or Alabama, or Arkansas. Go as far away from here as you can.
You seem as extreme as they are. I don't think that's healthy either.
They're not going to accept that you have different beliefs if you're not accepting theirs. Don't be so negative. I doubt that any
intellectual puts it as black and white as you do.
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Originally Posted by einbert
You obviously don't think about it, you just keep it around because in your opinion, there's no good reason not to. Otherwise you would, you know, actually practice it. Or, more likely, if you put into serious thought into it, eventually realize what a farce it is and drop it. The fact that you don't even realize this is exactly why religion is a mind virus and far more harmful than you realize.
He grew up with it. Some things you can't change about yourself and why should he? Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.
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Originally Posted by Thijs908
Glad you will, although I'm against organized religion but I am all for freedom of religion.
The US definitly made a mistake, they claim they have freedom of religion (well, says in the constitution) but is it that really? Like that mosque being built which the majority of America opposes, that isn't freedom of religion anymore.
You won't see IN GOD WE TRUST on a euro bill either. It's just so weird
Maybe I'm too harsh and on the US, I'm an outsider but there's some general things like I said that make me go "wat"
Yea I feel the same way. I don't consider it freedom of religion either when the president refers to god in every speech and when you have to put your hand on a bible in court. That's very weird for Europeans.