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01-23-2013 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by nooberftw
evidence

and thats implying its just fluoride they put in there and not a bunch of other radioactive chemicals mixed in with the fluoride
What would the motive be for putting a bunch of radioactive chemicals in water?
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01-23-2013 , 09:26 PM
invisible walls
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01-25-2013 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nooberftw
evidence

and thats implying its just fluoride they put in there and not a bunch of other radioactive chemicals mixed in with the fluoride
yea, evidence***





***Which I will then refute with claims that I can't back up with evidence.
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01-25-2013 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nooberftw
Hovind actually should have been a life coach or a motivational speaker or something. Charming, charismatic etc etc.

Too bad he used his skills to be a fast talking con man instead.
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01-26-2013 , 12:33 AM
Sadly much of my wife's family is in on the fluoride conspiracy business. The most extreme of them believes that the government is putting it there to prevent us from using our third eye. I wish I was joking.
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01-26-2013 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
The most extreme of them believes that the government is putting it there to prevent us from using our third eye. I wish I was joking.
Do they express any view on when that practice started? If not, why would a GOP govt prevent us to access our spiritual side?
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01-26-2013 , 06:06 PM
I just love that US citizens are among the wealthiest and longest lived people in the world, but we're all damned by fluoride and spraying.

**** me, let's move to Africa.
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01-26-2013 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kb coolman
I just love that US citizens are among the wealthiest and longest lived people in the world, but we're all damned by fluoride and spraying.

**** me, let's move to Africa.
We're doing pretty terrible compared to other industrialized nations though.

Spoiler:
So, maybe move to Japan?
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01-26-2013 , 07:12 PM
Among industrialized countries yeah, but that's because we're fat bastards who love to smoke and don't have public health care. Even so, we're only 5 years expectancy behind Japan, and that can be easily overcome on an individual basis by those who have access to decent health care and choose to live by healthier habits. But we're still 30 years ahead of the countries who really have it bad.
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01-26-2013 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kb coolman
Among industrialized countries yeah, but that's because we're fat bastards who love to smoke and don't have public health care. Even so, we're only 5 years expectancy behind Japan, and that can be easily overcome on an individual basis by those who have access to decent health care and choose to live by healthier habits. But we're still 30 years ahead of the countries who really have it bad.
Agreed.
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01-26-2013 , 07:37 PM
doesnt matter how long we live if were brain damaged by fluoride

and if japan is so much better then why dont we take out the fluoride,
they acknowledge that its a hazardous waste by product

Japan REJECTED: "...may cause health problems...." The 0.8 -1.5 mg regulated level is for calcium-fluoride, not the hazardous waste by-product which is added with artificial fluoridation.

(also let this thread die so i wont keep coming back )
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01-26-2013 , 07:41 PM
i guess its just the american experts and not the japanese experts we should primarily listen to
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01-26-2013 , 08:00 PM
So does anyone (not noober, he has zero credibility) have info on why japan is in fact doing this?
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01-26-2013 , 08:44 PM
Hmmmm, I have only cursory knowledge, but:

It is accurate that several countries do not add fluoride to their water, but the majority of them recognize the benefits of fluoride to most people but see no need to add fluoride to the water when it can have ill effects on a limited part of the population, and those who appreciate the benefits with no ill effect can easily access fluoride by a means other than their drinking water. For example, even Japan dispenses fluoridated toothpaste.

As for why Japan in particular doesn't allow fluoride to be placed in drinking water, they don't want to force people to take unwanted medication, even if it has demonstrable benefits.
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01-26-2013 , 08:47 PM
noober,

As you know, sodium and chlorine are both highly toxic elements. Should we ban table salt?
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01-26-2013 , 08:53 PM
Here is a collection of recent statements from countries who chose not to add fluoride to their drinking water. Most of them share Japan's philosophy, that it is unethical to medicate the public through the drinking water. Some of them, such as India, are trying to remove the fluoride from their water not because it is harmful in moderate doses, but because their water contains far too much fluoride already.
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01-26-2013 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes
Here is a collection of recent statements from countries who chose not to add fluoride to their drinking water. Most of them share Japan's philosophy, that it is unethical to medicate the public through the drinking water. Some of them, such as India, are trying to remove the fluoride from their water not because it is harmful in moderate doses, but because their water contains far too much fluoride already.
well duh its unethical( forcibly medicating hundreds of millions of people through the public drinking water )

but it says right there in that document

The Chinese government now considers any water supply containing over 1 ppm fluoride a risk for skeletal
fluorosis. (Bo Z, et al. (2003). Distribution and risk assessment of fluoride in drinking water in the West Plain
region of Jilin Province, China. Environmental Geochemistry and Health 25: 421-431.)

Japan:
Rejected fluoridation: “...may cause health problems....” The 0.8 -1.5 mg regulated level is for calciumfluoride, not the hazardous waste by-product which is added with artificial fluoridation.
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01-27-2013 , 04:39 AM
Noober,

You have a chance to present a fair argument, but that will be difficult if you refuse to revise your position and cherry pick facts from the very documents that give you a leg to stand on.
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01-29-2013 , 04:16 AM
Obviously not reading whole thread, but I safely assume even the religious people are laughing.
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01-29-2013 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by nooberftw
forcibly medicating hundreds of millions of people
Some people think that's what religions are doing too. Not me of course. Have you drunk a lot of fluoridated water Noob?
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