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Originally Posted by Our House
Feel free to disagree, but not without using logic.
Even if I were allowed to employ your horrible kind of logic, I wouldn't.
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I'm not talking about evidence for a god or a supreme being.
I'm not talking about evidence for a god or a supreme being.
I'm not talking about evidence for a god or a supreme being.
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Is there evidence for the Christian God?
Is there evidence for the Muslim God
Is there evidence for the Jewish God
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title: Evidence for your religion
This whole setup is misconstrued and I suspect you know it.
What is the evidence for the scientific method? There is none. We can, however, debate over how it works and provide evidence for that, just like we can debate over how religion works for people and provide evidence for that.
A formula book is no evidence for physics, physics is just a working field. Just as religion is a set of rules and dogmas and rituals etc. of which a holy text is no evidence in the first place.
It can however give evidence to those in the field that the subject matter is correct and imparting wisdom or insight. But you place this against parts of science that can be proven, and you use this squeeky method, to construe an argument against (particular) Gods. But no parts of any gods can be proven in a scientific/logical way, much less being evident to all. We should know this, yet...
You ignore all this and try to put the onus of impossible proof on the theists.
There is no scientific evidence for a specific God. This is all you can wringe from the argument and it is a fact that almost all theists will gladly agree to.
The second error comes from the annoyingly persistant misconception that it is impossible for theists to equate Alah, Yahwe, God or even Apollo to one and the same force of Good, Love and Wisdom. That way you can keep your "arguments" bundled together.
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Which leads us to...
Evidence AGAINST Religion
I touched on this in another thread. If you try hard enough to convince yourself that something is true, it will eventually become true to you. The key is recognizing the potential of this placebo effect. Religion is a result of conditioning. Whether it's cultural/sociological, mainstream media, your parents' upbringing, or whatever, ANYBODY can be convinced of ANYTHING. And this can easily be proven to work on people who aren't aware (or choose to ignore) that it's happening.
This should be evidence
for a religion that is riped with age and wisdom and trial and error and against modern crueler methods to exploit it. You rather the phenomenon you are describing falls under control of the media and current authority?
I trust FOX news could do a lot more damage to our perception of truth than reading the bible ever can. Because there is a benefit to the phenomenon you are describing. Give the people all the inner strength, happiness, feelings of being cared for, consolidation, spiritual insights at the cost of those gifts becoming true to them.