Good Our House, I'm glad to see you were not molested and I'm even more glad that you chose to let me know.

Wedding sounds nice. Just like the one I would want, although I don't see myself getting married.

All those kids with cancer just run bad at coin flips? God doesn't see any better plans for them and has decided they don't need any extra heavenly rewards? The Lord wasn't very generous with his mercy when the Tsunami hit.

Your post just emphasises the blind part of blind faith.

HIV! I haven't seen this side of you ever! Two posts in a thread of mine and not one insult..

Bump

fwiw I enjoyed your post Big Erf, I am a sucker for happy endings and really hope you continue to be a great father for your daughter (I am sure you will).

I want to discuss elements of your post in more detail which demonstrate how this "spiritual" turn-around in your life had nothing to do with Christianity or any other religion (you say so yourself in your post whether you know it or not) and will do so maybe tomorrow. Its 3am here and I have to get up early tomorrow. Please take me off ignore tomorrow as I will be quite interested in your responses.

brought tears to my eyes. If i don't believe after that will I ever????


my mouth is filling up with saliva like when you've had too much to drink and are gonna puke.... oh.....HERE IT COMES!

Haven't read the rest yet but surely you realize 9 an hour is quite a bit better then 10 a day?

edit: just read that you had a kid out of wedlock, do you view your daughter as one of the very best things that has ever happened to you, or a mistake... that you will be paying for the rest of eternity? A lot of my catholic relatives look down upon that. Once one was talking about a kid out of wedlock, and I asked them to look the kid in the face and say that they should never have been born. They shut up quickly. Bringing a kid into the world is the best thing that you can ever do for anybody, wedlock or not, so why does God look down upon that?

Hey, no problem discussing in this nature, but if it turns then I'm out.

I have my own theory on the kids but I wouldn't expose it to a skeptic.
You'd have to of passed faith 101 to get it.

As for the Tsunami its never entered my head to question the Lord's judgment (though sometimes I credit Satan with hurricanes since he is "the prince of the power of the air". Though I could be mistaken in crediting him with them.) Ultimately I guess I'm blessed. I have quite enough sins without thinking I can sit in judgment on God, too. I focus most of my fault finding on people exclusively but I'm working on that.

Ok BillNye, give it to me straight here. Do you think that God would rather have me in the gutter broke as a joke or rich with Love and money so I could spread His Word and wealth to those in need?

Yeh, please don't expose your theory. I already feel ill after the music video and I'm almost convinced your theory on why God lets kids die of cancer would tip me over the edge.

Maybe you could address your questions to someone else in the future.

I feel you need practice in normal rational dialogs with people you like then maybe you'd have a chance of curing that superiority complex. Reinforcing it by constantly putting me down isn't helping you any.

Its so exaggerated on here you seem like a cartoon character and I'm sure everyone else sees it.

Don't feel bad if I don't answer you any longer. I wouldn't want to set back your treatment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

Keep it civil, folks. Nothing's quite over the edge so far, but remember that the tone of the OP sets the tone of the thread.

i think he would want you to be helping a dirt poor boy build a well so that he can have clean water. Not post on the internet. That's what I think tho you tell me.

If I were to go to a hospital. And kill all the newborns, they'd go to Heaven right? They wouldn't have to "risk" becoming bad people as they are innocent to begin. Thus I am guaranteeing they go to heaven. The best I can possibly do for them, no?

plz answer

In other words, you can tell whether people were serious depending on whether they stay Christian. If they relapse into agnosticism or atheism, it's because they weren't serious. I think it was madnak who, when he was younger, tried his hardest to believe in God; if you like, I'll let him know he simply wasn't as genuine as you.

This is the thread running through religion which I have described in the past as narcissism. I could get an identical story about life-changing experiences from those who have converted to Islam, or Hinduism, or Catholicism (and don't forget that the majority of people on the planet are guaranteed to have chosen the wrong religion). Religious experiences can even be induced via temporal lobe epilepsy, possibly even magnetic stimulation of the temporal lobes. Does that intrigue you at all? Or is there nothing in the world more important or convincing than your own personal emotional experiences? What justification can you give me for giving your experiences (or for that matter, mine) any more weight than other peoples'?

This personal attack on my character tells me a lot about you. I have never claimed to be better than you(or anyone else) and have certainly never attacked you personally. It is indeed you that have attempted to put me down in this very high handed fashion.


"Don't feel bad if I don't answer you any longer. I wouldn't want to set back your treatment."

This last line is particularly conceited and ironically demonstrates the high opinion you hold of yourself, as if I would be devastated if you did not respond to my posts.

If you can't handle me being critical of your views and challenging you on your posts then you should not be in an online discussion forum. It seems to me that you are attempting to hide behind this personal attack in the hope that you can discredit my reputation and not have to deal with the difficult task of actual discussion which would involve you explaining your often irrational and factually flawed posts.

Grow up and please stop flinging your precious wikipedia links at me.

Erf, I think you're a bit of a wacko but anyone who has produced a little girl that adorable can't be all bad.

Yes right lobe temporal epilepsy is involved in the case of some prophets. Ellen G. White was regarded by some as a prophet and she was struck in the temple by a rock. She felt it led to a blessing because she went on to experience visions.

Agree w/ Dominic on the little girl .

Basically I think your religion does more good than bad for the majority [definitely in your case w/ the coke, etc], however that doesn't mean you couldn't do more good forming your own values.

Nah, think it was vhawk.

and a famous creepy song + some break dancing for God - http://www.vimeo.com/1768758?pg=embed&sec=1768758

meh, 1, 3, 2

Would you live with that guy as your roommate for 1 year for $20k?

Dude, I lived with a highly Christian roomate my freshman year of college. He was incredibly devout and went to church most Sundays on campus. He brought an incredibly hot girl back to the room every night, but never ****ed her. I got blue balls just watching it.

ah, college..

yes i would do it for 20k, i would do it for free, he was a great roomate...bunked our beds and everything, i didnt have to do ****