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02-07-2009 , 06:45 AM

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Look beyond that you believe or do not believe in the tale of Genesis: Should Eve have eaten the apple?

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02-07-2009 , 06:57 AM

JOEL_

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No.

She lacked for nothing so why break the limits that were set.

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02-07-2009 , 07:22 AM

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Hell yes.

Eve pwns imo.

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02-07-2009 , 11:21 AM

Our House

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I want to know how Adam and Eve could have known right from wrong. Or how they could have distinguished the devil from God.

After all, the Bible wasn't written yet so they had no basis for their morality.

But God seems to have faulted them anyway.

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02-07-2009 , 11:31 AM

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02-07-2009 , 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JOEL_

No.

She lacked for nothing so why break the limits that were set.

Maybe she lacked a lack of limits?

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02-07-2009 , 02:29 PM

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So is Eve really the root of all suffering in the world?

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02-07-2009 , 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spord

Look beyond that you believe or do not believe in the tale of Genesis: Should Eve have eaten the apple?

"And you’ll remember that according to the Scriptures all men everywhere at every time in human history (and this would include Eve) are responsible for recognizing at least the existence of a powerful eternal Creator God of the universe. And recognizing their moral responsibility to God because His moral laws are written on their hearts so they grasp instinctually the difference between right and wrong."

No, Eve shouldn't have eaten the apple because she knew it was wrong.

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02-07-2009 , 04:39 PM

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If anyone is interested, the Bible does not specifically name the forbidden fruit that Eve ate. So, technically, apple is incorrect.

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02-07-2009 , 04:46 PM

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So is Eve really the root of all suffering in the world?

Technically...yes, IMO.

But I have heard the argument that when Adam partook of the fruit after Eve, that is when the sin nature was cast upon all mankind from that point on. This theory is based on the fact that the lineage is passed along thru the man, not the woman. Adam could have remained sinless if he didn't eat it while Eve couldn't have since she did.

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02-07-2009 , 05:51 PM

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If anyone is interested, the Bible does not specifically name the forbidden fruit that Eve ate. So, technically, apple is incorrect.

Yes, it could not have been an "apple" (such as those we are familiar
with today) because apples have seeds:

Gen 1:29 (NASB)

29 Then God said, "Behold, (AK)I have given you every plant yielding seed
that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding
seed; it shall be food for you;

If Gen 1:29 is absolutely correct, then the forbidden fruit is "without seed"
( and compare this with the "seeds" in the promise of Gen 3:15 ).

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02-07-2009 , 06:01 PM

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Really? Here's "food for thought".

Adam was still responsible for Eve's actions:

Gen 3:6 (NIV)

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and
pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some
and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her , and
he ate it.

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02-07-2009 , 06:24 PM

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The point was that she ate it first...personally, I could care less since I don't really hold to that theory.

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02-07-2009 , 06:46 PM

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Humans will always challenge boundaries. The story of genesis is a story of humanity being a sin. One should quell desires for such things are not good. Good people are obedient. If everybody is obedient tyranny will be easy to uphold. When people act as humans then existence must be a compromise because you can not rely on your fellow man just to keep to his station, you must trade with him. Eve is a hero because she does not act as a dumb sheep who obey rules merely because they are rules. The original sin should be worn as a badge of pride.

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02-07-2009 , 07:25 PM

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