That's right, I didn't because it wasn't my source. I referenced it in the sense that this type of presentation is available from other sources , religions, and cultures when a broadened spectrum of human understanding is sought; good will is always assumed .

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Man. in evolution through four(4) states of being gains the physical body, etheric body, astral body and in our present earth state , the Ego or "I". The intricate workings of these states can reveal their inner activities.

At sleep, if observing Man what is seen is a plant like existence to which the physical and ertheric bodies are in predominance. Born of the ancient states of Old Saturn and Old Sun there is conscious activity of higher beings but in so far as the individual human is concerned, this conscious ability is not present.

At sleep the human astral body and ego leave the physical etheric and enter into that which surrounds him or the nature forces or activities. Man with his spirit and soul enter into the elemental world but owing to the lack of "sense" organs in this world id not conscious of the same.

And so this chevage of the physical/etheric and the soul/spiritual is accomplished each night during sleep and also during simple "cat naps" while listening to the professorial lecture.

It should be known that the physical/etheric bodies of man could not exist without a spiritual soul activity holding it alive during sleep and at that time higher beings as those noted at the beginning of this essay embrace and keep the human in life during sleep.

During sleep the healing powers of the human being are awakened in the physical/etheric bodies who, on their own, represent a constructive activity, a balm to life, in a manner of speaking. As a child grows the force of growth or constructive activity of the etheric and physical bodies give the growing human that sense of strength common to all.

And so: Physical/Etheric bodies : Constructive and life giving activities. The Etheric Body or Formative Force Body holds the physical body within a higher realm of the Etheric and at death the physical body is released by the Etheric nature and arises the corpse of Man, without life but with a glimmer of the forming activity of the Etheric nature in evidence only for this corpse to disintegrate into nature's realm of the mineral.

The Etheric Body, in continuous activity , contains four realms:

Warmth Etheric, Light Etheric, Chemical Etheric, and Life Etheric.

Their names can give reasonable clues of this inner working but to be clear these higher realms are not attenuated particles of the physical mineral to which modern science is involved. There is not a traveling into higher realms by smaller and smaller particularity.

In previous times the last paragraph would not have been necessary but our foray into materiality necessitates the above. Traveling into higher spirituality enters into realms of being /activity germane to higher realms of conscious activity.

I'll stop for now and enter into Man's gains from the Old Moon and present Earth states of consciousness , or Astral body and Ego or "I".

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Thanks for blogging!

I've already given the sources to you but if you are unable to work at matters laying aside your prejudices and attempt comprehension then stand back. Go to the sites I gave you , especially anthroposophy, and with effort you will find your sources. Its not a one liner game. I'm not blogging anything and do feel responsibility to maintain some clarity on subjects which call for more than simple one line responses.

It is complicated but not so difficult if comprehension is sought. Insipid judgmentality is perversely meaningless.

Thanks, Carlo. It's been awhile since this thread has been active, and I didn't scroll back to see your sources.

By the way, this thread is certainly at least a de facto blog, since literally 86% of the posts are yours (25 out of 30, to be exact).

I wasn't judging (in a bad way). I like blogs.

Anyway, enjoy your de facto blogging!

This site and its forums has always been an oasis for thoughtful understanding, somewhat diminished lately but more a function of loss of interest in poker( you know, the good ol days).

There are many, if not all, who would appreciate some comprehension of the spiritual world within a reasoned presentation and that's what I aspire to. In our times, due to the materiality of the senses this appreciation is lost though present in ancient Man even up to the middle ages. Ancient Man wasn't delusional as to his relationship to the spirit but as noted we've lost this ability( atavistic consciousness).

The route , in our times, is through understanding and not through a natural clairvoyance . Its on and on as each presentation picture leads to another and that's why it 's longer in presentation than modern science, for example, when one can say F=MA and be finished.

Any way, there is a spiritual world and we are spirit/soul beings progressing within ennoblement to the future , Christ as template to comprehension within recurrent lives, the future of Man.

Hopefully the Astral Body and Ego will be clarified with respect to the Etheric and Physical bodies in the next episode , stay tuned buckaroos. LOL

The four (4) bodies of man, gained through the Old Saturn(physical,warmth), Old Sun( etheric,air), Old Moon (Astral,water) and Earth (Ego or "I") states of being present a picture of present day Man.

It is a wonder that a medication or remedy which offers health giving effects is poisonous . In this the astral body of Man is poisonous , or destructive in nature and the Ego is even more so. The belladonna berry, known in antiquity as not only a poison which can lead to death but is used to the present day for remedial activities in attenuated doses.

Within Man the two poles of of destructive/catabolic activities and constructive anabolic activities is known even to present physiology. Present physiology likens it to a particular entity(s) such as adrenaline, norepinephrine, cortisol and same such remedies without comprehension as to the inner activity of the human being.

Within the human being is the healing/constructive activity to which the etheric and physical bodies are sourced. Contrary wise the astral body and of course the ego are ensconced within and source of the destructive activities of human physiology.

And so, in healing, if the proper balance between the two is dis coordinated such as the astral nature is weakened the physician offers a catabolic process through remedies to the patient. There are poisonous minerals, plants and animals within the panorama of healing medicaments to the patient.

This is simplistic but be aware that the specificity of the remedies and their place of action must also be accounted for to which present science does not glean from their present knowledge bias.

When Man sleeps conscious activity is not evident as the astral body, ego leave the man and enter into the surrounding world with loss of consciousness. In this sense a man can be likened to a plant which does not have an astral or ego nature on the earth. Upon awakening as he "jumps" due to the astral body entering into the human being thus perceiving the external world.

Through the astral body, poisonous to the human being, a man becomes conscious . In the travels back of the soul/spiritual into the body he progresses through the etheric realm but becomes overwhelmed by our sense bound activities and again, has little or no memory of this transition.

Within the astral nature are the passions, desires, cacophony of experience which the human soul experiences in his progress into the future. The astral nature is also common to the animal kingdom which doesn't have an earthly ego .

The Ego, the baby of man's bodies works through the other three bodies as it works the earth. The ego can and does attenuate the astral nature within man such that the destructive activity within man, is mollified without cataclysm( or as Mother will say "control yourself", banal but true.

As the astral body perceives the external world and that within, the Ego or "I" brings Man the stream of "self conscious comprehension", as the ancient Greek "Oh Man, know thyself".

In ancient times the human being was spoken of as body, soul, and spirit. the physical/etheric as the body or the "temple" of Man, the "soul" or astral world and the "ego" or world of the spirit. These are three different worlds entirely different natures , all within the human being.

I'll stop here and next speak to body soul and spirit with especial pointer to our thinkin ability, that of the spirit.

The belladonna berry is poisonous as it sucks in astrality ,present but not contained within the plant. If this astrality were organized then the plant would be of animal nature which does have an astral body.

Man continually expresses a poisonous destructive process such that matter is totally annihilated within the being of man. The scientific theoretic of the conservation of matter and energy is another superstitious invention of a scientific thinking process which excludes Man from their mantrums.

Man is co creator of and destroyer of matter within and this can be gleaned from a rightful scientific approach which has to include the human being in the process.

From the above it is apparent the clarity of mind, of consciousness, is directly related to a destructive process (i.e. there is no consciousness nor thinking while asleep). When the human being thinks the soul prepares the thought process by eliminating( annihilating) matter from the site of the the thinking activity and in turn human thinking is facilitated. thinking is a spiritual process in which the soul "lives within" the thought to which the physical body acts as a "mirror", the soul thereby is able to bring forth the experience of the thought, itself of spiritual( supersensible) nature.

The thoughts of a man are brought from previous lives and are within the etheric body. If a man only uses the physical body as a reflector then the consequence is materialism, or more to the point, "belief" in materialism. At the present stage of evolution Man perceives "dead thoughts" or the corpse of living thinking to which he was ensconced during prenatal spiritual existence to which he was contained between his last death and present birth.

Thoughts have life, are alive, with the human being in progression to garner a spiritual or direct comprehension of these spiritual beings, the beings of thoughts.

The atavistic consciousness, to which we have all lived through, was able to "see" the creative thoughts of what we would call matter and had no need to use logic or rationality of the cosmos for they could directly perceive the warp and woof of creation. All is spirit and matter is the illusion of the senses, or the world of "maya".

In our present thinking capability, or lack thereof, we perceive via our senses and in this we become "independent" of the spirituality of the ancients. We have become Ego laden individuals in the considered belief that it is we who think irrespective of the cosmic creativeness. Look to the names of our
scientific heroes Joules, Hertz, Newtons, Ohm's, Kirchhoff, all evidence of a ego bound thinking not only on our part but on the parts of the heroes themselves.

Mankind has fallen to an egocentric perspective within materiality which denies the spirit and in this denies Man. After all, isn't the ideal to completely eliminate Man from his scientific experiments ? the road ahead is to regain that loss of spiritual consciousness while taking with us our ego driven intellectuality. This is a moral task and at present the scientists refuse to, and intellectual deny the scientific ability to glean the moral from the cosmic outreaches. Galileo and the church in separation and the precipitant abstract thinking, though spiritual in nature, treats words as dead beings, dead thoughts in the foray into materiality.

Science is the future of the moral , a science of the spirit to which the intellect rises as the future of Man. A thought process next.

Didn't mean to call everybody egocentric bastards , lol. the ancient consciousness , within the soul considered himself to be a portion of the cosmos much like a tree branch might consider him as part of a tree, but Man in progression ,has to deal with the Ego, his baby on earth and does obtain an individual personality in an evolutionary sense.

Consider back to birth and see yourself as a prenatal being and this can give some sense of the selfless in the human soul. Pre natal existence is not spoken to in our culture, only the egocentric concept of after death, if spoken to at all. The selfless moral tone of the spiritual enters into the conception of man at birth, that which comes from the spirit since his last death unto rebirth.

In the evolution through the Saturn, Sun, Moon and Earth states of consciousness arise warmth or heat, air, water and earth or the solid. The ancients referred to these concepts and we, in our scientific perspective, present an earthly "look" such as the table of the elements of 100+ matters.

In consequence , because of this conceptual approach of modern science all of existence is contained within the material and scientific considerations are related to particular elements.

The ancient scientist saw earth, water, air and fire as individual entities with qualities manifested as in the evolutionary states as delineated above. Telling, "earth" was spoken to as "solidity" and transformations between states was understood as separate and distinct arenas of clarity. From the evolutionary states of Saturn, Sun, Moon and Earth it should be apparent that since there was only "heat" within the Saturn state one cannot use the molecular materiality of bouncing molecules as the creation of "heat" bur that heat stands on its own , its origin in creation prior to the earth state to which material molecules are thought to create this "heat".

Matter did not exist , in a manner of speaking, until the earth or "solid" state of materiality. This is not a call to return to the cognitive atavistic consciousness of ancient man, who we were in previous lives, but to bring forth the intellect to seize and comprehend the nature of Man and the Cosmos within inner and external relationships.

A comprehension of this can be related to Man as he passes through the portal of death. As a man passes through the hierarchical beings of creation There are no sun, moon and stars as we see them but all that we perceive become our "inner man" and so within are the sun, moon and stars as inner being in our travels throughout the heavens. We merge with external nature as we lookout from within that to which was external to our being.
We are nature.

We then have a perception of an external reality which are our present liver, spleen ,heart, or all that is within the being of Man. And so we perceive our inner heart externally known as "sun" to the ancients or present head which arises as "moon" with our inner organs of spleen, liver, gall bladder, kidneys, and lungs presenting as the motions of the planetary systems are related.

The inner activities of spleen were known as Saturn, of gall bladder as Mars, liver as Jupiter, lungs as Mercury, kidneys as Venus and of course the sun and moon noted above . The activities of each of the inner organs are held within this nomenclature. The picture which a man perceives after death of of a greater sublimity than that to which he perceives while on our solid earth.

Knowledge of Man leads to cosmic knowledge and cosmic knowledge will lead to Man.

A further consideration of evolution speaks to the relationship of Man top his external surroundings; animal, plant, and mineral kingdom's.

As presented early on the animal kingdom originated during the early Sun state .The perception of Man displays thinking or cognitive abilities, feelings , and will full activities; head, chest and metabolic limb creations.

The head of man is really a stranger on earth, more like a passenger on a train who is carried along, separate from his external surroundings. Yes, the head of Man thinks about these surroundings more in a kinematic sense but in order for man to learn or study the external reality there must be a connection through experiment or the like and in this we have mechanics.

It is telling that the kinematic equations are closely related to outer realty but none the less all that comes from the head is not contained within the telluric principle.

In the animal kingdom the bird is head . Looking at the shape, structure and activities of the bird kingdom they are outer worldly in presentation and action. The eagle is the representative of the bird kingdom that best displays its nature, beyond the earth as visitor thereof.

Whereas Man brings thoughts into reality the bird, with the eagle as representative expresses feathers and of course the many colored feathers of the bird nature; Man, thoughts; bird, feathers.

Sorry, had to go through that, but consider that Man, in evolution has the bird nature within but stops short of becoming total bird, in a manner of speaking. The animal kingdom comes to full expression in evolution whereas Man stops short and thus the head, not bird, but human head.

Looking at the polar aspect of Man and his metabolic /limb aspect we that to which the will forces are involved. Note the spindly legs of the bird and almost total lack of digestive capabilities evident if one parks his
car under a tree; more an in and out process ,as apposed to the larger and more sophisticated process of digestion of Man.

The animal representative of the digestive/will forces is the cow. The cow, chewing his cud, presents with a magnificent astral body in this digestion. The Hindu reveres the cow, not as a materialist would see it, but in a atavistic consciousness saw this astral nature, holding it in reverence, the reverence of the cow.

The chest cavity of Man presents rhythm, where is found the confluence of the respiratory and circulatory rhythms . Disruptions of rhythm precipitates "ill feeling" and in fact the nature of healing is gleaned from this activity.

The respiratory rhythm of 18 beats per minute meets the circulatory rhythm of 72 beats for minute in the chest calling for a ration of 1:4. Each individual man has his own rhythmic proportion called within the respiratory and circulatory projections gathered around the ration of 1:4.

The Lion is the animal representative of the chest cavity who holds the respiratory and circulatory rhythms in a wonderful balance ; look at the gaze of the lion and see his inner joy manifested through his rhythmic balance. The head of the lion is small in proportion and the lion's digestive system becomes apparent as he voraciously devours his meat not wanting to disrupt his inner rhythmic balance. The lion has a shorter digestive system than man and the cow and as such becomes a meat eater whereas the cow, with its elongated digestive system is vegetarian.

Eagle, Lion, Bull (cow) as seen in the Revelation of John with the fourth Man , in evolution, who contains the entire outer world in his being and stops short of becoming a cow or eagle or lion for he is neither cow or eagle or lion .The animal kingdom is a rejected activity as man who moves further into the evolutionary state.

Darwin saw the relationship of Man to the animal kingdoms but the neo- Darwinists turned it into a facile unreality; Man is first born ,all around him is contained within wither as actuality such as iron or rejected capabilities such as lead. The evolution of Man is a reality which cannot be appreciated only by a science of ponderable matter but by supersensible and telluric considerations.

Man Thinks, Feels and Wills ; head, chest and metabolic limb systems.

Man is a soul/spiritual being and to that end the evolution of the body, esoterically, speaks as Man as first born. The evolution of the soul and spirit takes another course, in a manner of speaking.

A better nature of the soul/spirit evolution of Man sees the perspective such that the body of Man are his paints/palette on the earth and in progression through earthly lives he gains powers/abilities which he carries into the future; this future being the ennoblement of the human being as existence into another state of being.

Man proceeds through earthly trials of water and fire , so to speak, gaining an enfoldment of the futuristic human state, that of the soul/spiritual sans a ponderable materiality.

There are Evolution of the Body ;
Evolution of the Soul and Spirit .

The Body or "Temple" of earthly existence consisting of the etheric and physical bodies is that which we can "see" as a man sleeps, plant like but not a plant. The soul/spiritual being of Man abandons the body during sleep entering into what we call our outer world , as divine spirituality. After refurbishment in that world he returns and becomes awakened into earthly existence.

At this point the concepts of reincarnation and karma has to be spoken to as reality . Examples would be better at this point upon return.

The histories of present times present more like a inorganic movement of element to element such that the source of activities during our times would be seen as consequential to that which preceded our age. These causal connections seem similar to the water on top of a waterfall causing the water beneath it to fall. Man is not an inorganic being nor does he act within the same.

In consideration of reincarnation and karma subject activities during a particular age present as consequential to the return of human beings from the spiritual world between his last death until birth; carrying fruits of previous lives as karmic action on the earth. These fruits are not only those from the previous life but of course from multiple recurrent lives within the individual history of a Man.

In the 9th century of our age the great Arabic civilization at Bagdad was led by Haroun al Rashid the illustrious follower of Muhammad in the 8th and 9th centuries. A confluence of many minds came to this place on the earth including the works of Aristotle via the Greek impetus of Alexander and Aristotle which tinged the thinking activities of Arabic thought morphed into the Muhammad forces of an Old Testament religion.

High thinking and scholarly activities prevailed in practically every domain of life and knowledge . Architecture, Astronomy as practiced during that age, the arts geography, poetry , medicine , philosophy, mysticism; all flourished at the court of Haroun al Rashid .

In Europe at this time was the court of Charlemagne where those were just beginning to learn to write. The court of Haroun al Rashid was known to the court of Charlemagne and was held in high esteem. Of note is that in the West the logic and reason of Aristotle were imbibed whereas his creative works were assimilated by this confluence of Arabic and Greek thought in toto.
The closing of the schools of Greek thought by the Roman church scattered the great Greek thinkers to the East and into what was at one time known as the Orient, if not now.

Haroun al Rashid, who organized this court of splendor had a second , so to speak, who was an initiate , or who was able to perceive the spiritual world beyond the senses. Both men worked within the earthly and were within a spiritual togetherness in their spiritual movements between their death and rebirths.

In the ancient mystery centers a man to be initiated would be placed into a trance state by the hierophant as surrounded by 12 priest initiates. The
higher initiations were the the mysteries of the Father God. During this trance state the Ego, or 4th body of Man, was suppressed for it was felt and known that if the Ego were freed during this time of initiation a cataclysm of madness would involve. The Ego, being too egocentric, was not strong enough in a selfless manner to withstand the spiritual world in ego centric clarity.

The ancient mastery centers revolved within the mystery of the Father God . There were lesser mysteries but only in the sense that other mystery knowledge was insighted. The ancient Hebrew knowledge also spoke to the Father God and concomitant comprehensions.

And so Pagan wisdom proceeding through Greece and Eastern wisdom through Hebrew eschatology conveyed to the human being the Mysteries of the Father God.

Too long, but I'll continue with the recurrent lives of Haroun al Rashid and his initiate commander until their recurrent lives with respect to ancient mystery wisdom.

The splendor of the Bagdad court has a dynamic which reached out beyond geographical or time laden borders. The Battle of tours had been the terminal point of incursion of the Arabic forces of Muhammad into the West led by Charles Martel. When armies clash human spirituality does reach beyond time and space such that the work continues.

The court of Bagdad, though following in time to the Battle of Tours continued its effects in the West through its two progenitors , Haroun Al Rashid and his initiate commander.

Both , upon passing through he gate of death incarnated in a subsequent incarnation within range of common times . The initiate commander reincarnated as Amos Comenius who is considered the father of modern education. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Amos_Comenius

Likewise , a little earlier in time , Haroun Al Rashid incarnated as the individuality Francis Bacon of Verulam . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon

Examination of the Wiki articles can give the reader an insight of these two men working in tandem and bringing forth the modern materialistic ethos which streams from out our modern science.

The modern science as an offshoot of Islamic perceptions and spirituality , a spirituality of earthly affairs. Lord Bacon of Verulam with his denial of the spiritual released "demons" of thought activities which separated Man from his appointed origin and future states, both of spiritual nature.

The fatalism inherent in the Islamic eschatology screams out from modern science and says "thou art a creature of nature" , "accept and submit to what thou art". The mechanistic and even mathematical powers rule over you, no more than a denizen of animal grief, a higher animal but still animal. the perversity of the Darwinian perspective is egregiously mind numbing.

Within this spiritual foray there is no moral tenor but only abstractions of death in the life of the soul. The destructive materialistic thought processes are the warp and woof of the scientific milieu ,a skinned calf ,only the bones and no other. This is the world of theoretical materiality.

And so the connection of the mysteries of only the Father God, attenuated by Eastern impetus stands tall within modern science. You and I are determined within the Western sister of Islamic fatalism, "submit and accept". We see this even in Augustine and Calvin as men of high mind accept within the Christian sense.

Christianity is not contained within that modern science but is within the human West through the Impulse of Golgotha. The Christ Being who died on the Cross and entered into the hearts of all men and is the Spirit of the Earth brings Man beyond "nature child" as the human being is born anew into the future of the immortal spirit. He sits within the Etheric and Astral natures of Man as guide to the future, the futuristic state of extraction from the morass of a fungoid personal. This is the "Freedom" of Man or free men as a knights of freehood.

The Christ Impulse is beyond nature and calls for the moral impulse of free men which is garnered through the Holy Spirit of a freed thinking which can pay homage to the senses but lives within and presents the spiritual even in the sense bound activities of Man. Christ sits in balance between the earthly subscription of materiality and the purely thought processes of the spirit.

We are within this polarity of heights and the depths in which through recurrent lives we progress to our future in Christ laden immortality. The Christ Impulse is not evident in modern science but working to the future the spiritual thought process of the modern scientist is the platform for the noble enhancement of the individual man, a work in progress.

subbed for later perusal in more detail.
Reminiscent of Blavatsky, Cosmogenesis - impenetrable but I imagine hugely rewarding once concepts become understood.
If the concept of Maya is 'ten thousand' years old then it ofc predates Plato's forms.

The evolution of Man consists of evolving of his physical body, etheric body, antral body and "I" or ego which is the baby of Man's bodies whose work is the present earthly state. Each progresses throughout the states of being, past and future.

The spiritual beings delineated on the first page ;

Father, Son, Holy Spirit

Seraphim

Cherubim

Kyriotetes

Dynamis

Exousai

Archai

Archangels

Angels

Human Spirits

Spirits yet to come

offer some clarity in an historical basis.

Man, ego intact, goes through the human evolution during the earth state. The Angel beings have gone through their human evolution during the Old Moon existence. These "attendant angels" guide individual men from earthly life to earthly life , responsible for their particular individual man.

The archangels or spirits of groups of men such as nation, clan, race, peoples had progressed through the human existence during Old Sun state. They sit more like a cloud to which individuals are immersed ; the guiding spirit of Frenchmen, Englishmen, Italian Men, etc..... In medieval times and previously men were intrinsically aware of the spirit of their nation through their atavistic consciousness and of course this consciousness gradually left man to which he now lives within a "mineral consciousness" bereft of the hidden spirituality. Man now lives within a sense bound activity unable to "see" the hidden spirit , source of all in active motion. Man has gained the intellect as world perception during this loss that aboriginal consciousness with the future presenting his ability to regain his place in the cosmos as a spiritually perceptive being. This is "religion" or "religare" in the Latin which means to return and regain that lost state as new being evolved out of the past.

The Archae or or spirits of time went through their human existence on Old Saturn . These are the angelic beings who work across time periods as guides for all mankind; Spirits of Time.

Will stop now and hopefully return to present "thinking" or spiritual cognition as Man moves into the future.

As is well known the scientific milieu posits an explosion of materiality at "beginnings" culminating into a slag heap, this the product of the entropy process. In this consideration all that comes from Man is of no avail all that he has brought to life in the progression of time is of no consequence, all is lost.

When a man thinks the soul causes an annihilative destructive process in the physical body thus opening up space for the spirit or thought forms. Man then experiences himself united with the stream of cosmic existence. The thought is then reflected off the physical body to which we consider our thinking process. Thinking as a spiritual activity.

It is important to understand that if a "thinker" looks for particles of materiality as basis for Man then consider that this is the materialist ethos which excludes the spirit , a delusion , a dyscrasia , an illness of the perceptions of Man. This is not to say that our sense bound activities are non existent but that the balance between the material and spiritual is lost in the present exegesis.

When Man looks out into space, time and nature what he is seeing is a dying or destructive process in activity. All of what is seen is the past, the realm of the Father God. Light, air, water, heat, all in a lost pavilion of time.

What we are perceiving is the thought activity of the hierarchical beings such as the archangel beings who experienced human thinking during Old Sun existence. The cosmic entelechy as the creative coloring of the human soul within his progression through time. All around, in its magnificence of thoughts , shines into the human soul as cosmic life in its dying state, the past as Father God.

The ideal of the human being of Morals, Artistic Balance, and Religious Expression are brought forth by humanity. The ideal is not lost.

The "will" forces of Man are unknown as expressed by his metabolic/limb system . During sleep Man is not conscious nor is will activity known as the thinking cognitive abilities related to the head and nervous system.

If I move my arm the thought of the movement enters into the realm or the will full and the arm moves. I am able to glean the incitement to movement but the not the will activity itself, lost to consciousness.

All that is brought fort as the "ideal " in men is taken into his will activity and this thought in its destructive activity is beheld by the Cosmic Christ Being and creates to the future. The Moral, Artistic and Religious sensibilities , all the ideal as foundation to Man's future comes forth as new creation which becomes the Jupiter state of being of Man. He takes our loves and lives into the Jupiter realm .

Consider the Old Moon existence which is called the Cosmos of Wisdom as wisdom was formed during the Old Moon state. Thus we look and all that surrounds us and can glean the wisdom external. The wasp has made paper for thousands of years as Man progresses in wisdom. We are in the wisdom of the hierarchy's move to the future from Old Moon.

The Earth state is called the Cosmos of Love and in this we, guided through the Cosmic Christ Being enter the Jupiter state where Love abounds throughout. Love, of human and cosmic creation as the "free man", disconnected from the "necessity" or the "tethers" of the Old into the New.

Love cannot be enforced but must come from an act of "freedom" the work of Men. Man as Cosmic Creativity in its dying state of being is resurrected through the work of Man. The New is born.

Correction:

In the later listing of the hierarchal beings I neglected to place the "Thrones" or Spirits of Will between the Cherubim and the Kyriotetes.

Cherubim

Thrones

Kyriotetes

Present science deals in the realm of measure, number and the ponderable or weight. The physical body, as gleaned today is the result of that particular nuance of thinking. The physical nature presents with the ponderable but even this is lacking for as presented at the beginning of this treatise the physical nature of Man was/is a system of forces which only in a sense presents with the mineral kingdom which of course is weighable.

The etheric body of Man, along with the cosmic etheric, works in contradistinction to this i.e. in a centrifugal direction. This is not a linear contrary but akin to an activity which works from the inner aspect of a cosmic sphere. A good way to mull on this is to focus on an inner imaginative point and from the periphery a light sphere works from without in an opposite direction from the outer reaches of the cosmos will arise. Point....sphere.

The forces at work within the physical realm are those of the forming of a crystal with its many faceted shapes such as presented in geometry.... triangle, square, dodecahedron, hexagon, etc...

The forces within the etheric realm are such that it brings to form the sphere such as the forming of the raindrop . If one thinks of a square this is brought to the etheric body of man which works to eliminate the angles but more to the point will bring forth a spherical creation. Lobachevsky or spherical geometry is an interesting consideration of the realm of the etheric.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbolic_geometry

Look to water or fluid state in the workings of the etheric body as in its sphere the forming of water, or blood, or molten steel displays the etheric forces. Correspondingly the force activity of the etheric can be considered as apposed to the gravity laden ponderable as this force activity stretches upward. Please note the use of modern language is difficult but an imaginative picture can aid to understanding.

Think of the inner aspect of an umbrella with the etheric forces coming from without downward to a point handle . The etheric forces are of a "suction" nature and in this we have "gravity-suction" working through the physical and etheric bodies of Man.



Leading back to the presentation of "thinking" a spiritual activity consider that the brain, as it sits in the cranium weighs approximately 1500 grams and if the ponderable is only considered the fine blood vessels in the brain would be crushed by this weight driven mass.

In reality the weight of the brain is more like 20 grams as the well known Archimedes principle comes to understanding as the fluid or etheric forces relieve the mass of this crushing effect. And so when floating on the sea the etheric is in full disclosure to our individual being.

The connection between outer nature and thinking also presents itself in the human breath. The diaphragm or inner plate between the respiratory and abdominal cavities will , upon inspiration, be pressed into the abdominal area and concurrently press or force the fluids of the spinal column upward into the cranium causing the brain to rise.

https://www.google.com/search?q=huma...XsyTQwiCaYithM

At expiration the diaphragms rise lessening the abdominal and cranial pressures thereby causing the brain to fall.

It is through this fact that Man can think for he cannot think in full ponderable but the lightening forces of the etheric allow man to "think". The area of Man's thoughts , memories, is the imponderable or suprasensible , the realm of the etheric.

The soul enters into the "thought" or etheric, prepares the physical by a destructive process and this thought is reflected of his nervous system. The thought is attenuated which leads to another consideration as we live within "dead" thoughts, dead abstractive thoughts which call for a futuristic enlightenment by Man, a work to be done.

If a "real" thought were to enter into the being of a man, he would be blown to smithereens , what a word. lol

The rhythm of the respiratory and circulatory movements are a realm of "feeling" or the astral realm which of course has something to do with thinking but will stop for now.

If one takes a ride through the country side and passes by a large oak , moving on to a continuing wooded area buttressed by a creek it would be foolish to state that the oak no longer exists, as evident. It is apparent that the past exists as our memory insures this state of belief in existent events.

If memory is brought forth the memory thoughts and thoughts themselves are contained within the etheric body of Man. Man carries from previous lives an etheric thought activity, or fruits of these lives, and also gains thoughts from his interaction with his earthly sojourn. And so, the thought of the tree, or creek or mountain, upon sense bound perception, enters into his etheric body, giving rise to this second thought bound world.

In times previous to the 15th century when Man gained a strong intellect the consequences were that he no longer "perceived" the thought of the tree... Man, in evolution, had no question as to the existence of this spiritualized creative activity, that activity which presents the tree, in substance, with the spirit lost to the human soul. We have lost our ability to "see" the higher worlds , a thought borne activity. There are of course gradations in time leading to this loss .

Prior to this extraction from the spirit Man could not considered nor even have an inkling of "free will" as he was contained within the activities of the higher realms as noted on the first page of this work. Man 's deeds, thoughts, feelings, and will laden activity were all contained from without the human soul, higher beings caring for the human past, present ,and future within the evident hierarchies.

The fourth body of Man, his Ego, was released consequential to the event of Golgotha, then arose to manifest an independent being, an "I", an individuality in the creative process. Free will could now be comprehended and manifested and as noted the intellect, concomitantly arose, as Man releases himself from the tethers of that aboriginal world. Man, lost from his original existent being , in a welter of consternation leaves the past on into the future, borne by Love and Light .

Have to come back...

The etheric body is a "time body" which extends backward to a little before conception. And so, the past is present, every alive, much like the consideration of the auto trip through the woods.

At the moment of the sperm meets the ovum "chaos" arises such that the ovum is stripped of any organizing power , an emptiness less than nothin and even more so. The cosmic ether then enters into and organizes the ovum into the embryonic structure in time and space as we are wont to agree.

The human soul has garnered his particular etheric from this cosmic ether and of course lives within as being within the same. During the fetal growth we have what becomes of the human body , a conglomeration of physical forces and etheric.

As was known in ancient lore this being of man receives his soul and spirit nature at approximately 28 days. The soul enters into this prepared cosmic being at that time and becomes a traveler on the earth.

The multi initiated Moses was able to perceive this time body, or cosmic ether, and brought forth the Books of Moses speaking to evolutionary activities or forces as noted in the Bible, Genesis.

This etheric world, to which in a man stretches to pre conception and birth contains our thoughts which are not abstractions but also contain a "feeling" and "will" related activity, alive if you will. It becomes Man's duty to bring these thoughts into aliveness again by bringing forth the "feeling" of the thought ensconced within a "activity of will"

Not vey clear but note the dreadful abstractive thinking of present man, cold, indifferent, a deadness of intellectual distress. This had to be as so long as the human being lived within the ancient atavistic consciousness he did not see himself as a individual but more of a branch on a tree awaiting his release from the cosmic forces who brought forth his being, a human being in evolution. The advent of the "I"'s release secures this capability, a man of self knowledge, an extracted from the bosom of the cosmic.

Just a note forward the astral body speaks to "feelings" and the "I" or "Ego" to the "will" it being the "spiritual" .

The human being as a soul (astral)/ spiritual (Ego) being.

The etheric body as "time body" records all that which the soul experiences all that comes to bear in direct consciousness and unconscious activities. Deeds performed whether evil or good are registered within the etheric realm irrespective as to whether we are consciously aware of the consequences of these deeds. This is the world of "karma".

The deeds registered within awakened activity are registered within the etheric and during sleep higher judgment as to the worth of these deeds are brought upon the soul through the higher beings, or "gods" within the spiritual hierarchies. Upon awakening the individual man, in a manner of speaking, is refurbished through these beings and judged appropriately.

Upon going through the gate of death the soul experiences this etheric as imaginative pictures of his previous life . If ,in a specific deed he does good he brings warmth and light to the cosmic activity and if evil,a cold darkness. This is the human being bringing fruits to the cosmic good, a welcome addition to the graces of heaven.

In these imaginative pictures "time becomes space" as the non spatial etheric brings forth all that we have experienced through a vast panorama of imaginations. This period of time in which the soul experiences this panorama after death lasts about 24-48 hours or for as long as a man can stay awake without sleep in normal consciousness.

Those who have had near death experiences such as almost drowning, fallen from a cliff and survived speak to "my life passed before my eyes"

After this period of time the etheric body of a man is dissolved into the cosmic ether as again, a cosmic fruit, and man continues on into the soul world taking with him an extract of his fruits gained through this life.

What one has done to another man is experienced within the "soul world" such that if I "poke" another in the nose I will experience the effect of that "poke" upon the other man in all of its ramifications. This is the preparatory effect of a future karma to be lived through in the next or future lives.

To be clear "karma" is not punishment for what was done but a movement , an aid , a healing of the individual soul in spiritual work. In this "soul world" man's life is gone through backwards beginning with death back to his conception and birth. I experience the other

This period of time in the soul world last approximately the same amount of time he has slept in the previous earthly existence. If he has lived to the age of 60 the period of time in the soul world would be about 20 years assuming that we sleep 8 hours a night, dependent upon the man.

During this time in the soul world all of the earthly extractions are exudated from the soul so that the human being can enter into the higher cosmic spirituality, sans earth.

An example is a gourmand who eats to excess; he will find that he no longer has a bodily apparatus to enjoy food but whose soul still has passions and desires for the same. He then goes through a period of privation or "burning desire", a cosmic suffering, in order to strip himself of these untoward effects of earthly existence.

This doesn't mean that a man shouldn't eat as balance is important in all measures. None the less the soul demands this suffrage, knowing full well what he needs to progress into the spiritual realm, his home, his destiny.

Will stop for now, its a lot.

In the evolution of Man the subject of "atavistic consciousness" can be spoken to. Krishna's statement to Arjuna " I am the beginning, middle and end of creation" and other "I am" statements , to the modern mind, would, for some, considered an artistic statement much like an actor would present on stage.

The modern critic would accept this artistic measure but if " I am the wind, the teardrop, the pathos of all"( these are my words following the stream of this consciousness) and is taken at face value then he might consider Krishna a madman.

Krishna spoke in this manner to Arjuna for he was the apotheosis of evolutionary Man, this man who had returned to the primeval state before the Luciferic temptation. I am the wind, I am the stars, I am the wave of the mighty Ganges , I am All.

In this the God spoke through Krishna to the warrior Arjuna. As religion, or religare in the Latin, seeks return to the higher state of existence, that spiritual world to which Lucifer blinded man , Krishna had succeeded. The ancients of all nations knew of this journey and each in their own way sought to "return" to their true home.

Mankind continued to "fall" from this existence and there arises , 500 years before our times, the Buddha who sits under the Bodhi Tree. Old age is suffering, birth is suffering, desire for anything is suffering, life is suffering, all of existence on the earth is suffering. The Buddha countenanced that one shall leave the wheel of life and not return to this state of suffering and in this gain Nirvana. The man works to rid one's self for the thirst for earthly existence, never to return, and therefore return to the higher state of spirituality as ancient Krishna had remedied.

In this aspect the Buddha succeeded and did not return to the earth for further incarnations, having left his teachings to his disciples the methodology for this ablation of earthly existence. To be clear, the Buddha, does not reincarnate, having entered into a spiritual state who works for the betterment of mankind from without , the world of the spirit or the gods or angelic beings noted in the beginning of this work.

The atavistic consciousness , where the follower "is the tree", is the river, is that in which the individual man does not have courage but "is courage" as he lives within the "being of courage" or "I am courage". Ancient sages spoke to their followers such was said" Thou art that"; thou art the mountains, thou art the mighty oak, thou art your noble friend of afar.

Buddha countenanced ,in great love, that man leaves the earth, or home of suffering. But there is more for in this atavistic consciousness the Ego of man, or his individuality, is not loosed. In Buddhism the Ego is suppressed or denied as in the man's return to life his "causal body" returns but not the Ego which cannot work without catastrophe as it is immersed within the realm of "good and evil". In the Old Testament there is recognition of this:

Hebrew: And the Lord God said, "Now that the man has become like one of us, knowing good and bad, what if he should stretch out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever!"

This leads to Socrates who lived at the time of the Buddha as change is forthcoming. Will return.

To be clear the Buddha no longer reincarnates.

The Buddha spoke to his disciples via imaginative pictures as apposed to the rational logic of Socrates. The repetitive mantras of the Buddha had the effect of a "feeling" type experience in the disciple again associated with imaginative thinking. These imaginations were (are) the spiritual background of reality , the creative tether , for wont of a better word (s) of the spiritual and earthly.

Mankind gradually lost this atavistic or imaginative consciousness though it still was capable to some up to the 15th century of our era. The Buddha presentation, or "imaginative" presentation was taken up by his followers with an immediate comprehension not forthcoming.

It was the times of knowledge of the night as the disciple would lay their heads to sleep at night and the stellar lights would enter into the human being and bringing comprehension of these imaginations to the disciple. Somewhere the tale of the ancient Hebrew receiving their Biblical teachings at night as expressed through Yahve, the Hebrew God working in the Night.

Socrates approached his followers not by presenting the imagination but questioning the follower and attempting to bring forth the thoughts out of the follower. Socrates acted as a midwife in his questions which were answered by the disciple from out of themselves.

During these early times the intellect comes forth within all men with its associated reason /logic , the logic of Aristotle. The western ethos stands within this intellectualized capability of intellectual thoughts continuing into our times, especially at the moment (s) of the Renaissance, or return to Greek thought.

There were still some who had inklings of imaginative thinking during the Middle Ages but at the 15th century mankind had ,on the whole, lost this imaginative thinking to which the consequences , the concepts of materialism came forth. Man became materialistic as he had accreted to a sub earthly state, oblivious ,in some manner, to his spiritual underpinnings, the creative spiritual of All, "I Am the All".

The Greek, of Plato, referred to the earthly as "solid", all solids whether ice or titanium were solid. From this the Greek scientist brought forth fire, air, water, and solid , all distincted in the evolutionary states of Saturn,Sun,Moon and Earth.

As example the intellect "cuts" and so the modern scientist has the table of the elements of 100+ different substances. In so far as these are "solid" the Greek is referring to a state of consciousness within creative activity.

The evolutionist speaks to genus, species and also is left to filing in the gaps between "different' species, some of whom to not exactly fit. This leads to abstractions, or "dead" concepts which have lost their life within the abstractive milieu , the intellectual in activity.

The consequential of this working within "dead" thoughts is the individuality of Man. By the fact that he is working within dead, lifeless wood, he is not constrained by truth, or comprehension of the spiritual, as he lives within an "image character" of putative sensibilities. Maya, the world of illusion, according to the ancient Indian sage is our workplace, that place which Buddha would have us leave, egoless sans personality.

We are working toward an ego centrality, a personality yet in the advent of the Christ Spirit within the world this Ego becomes a sacrificial Ego, the dying Ego becoming "new" onto the world and cosmic future. We are in the times of "working the earth" gaining knowledge of Man, self knowledge of the
Spirit. ....

This lecture given in England in 1923 can give insight to the evolutionary cognitive abilities of Man.

https://rsarchive.org/Lectures/19230812p01.html