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Maybe Jesus was just a person like you or me but used his imagination to connect with what he felt was God and believed it so much that he walked the path and ended up allowing himself to be tortured to death because of his belief. And God said, "Now that's what I'm talkin bout! You sir just proved mankind worthy."

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08-28-2010 , 07:56 PM

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BigErf

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Or maybe Jesus was another way for God to say, "Hello, here I am."

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08-28-2010 , 08:14 PM

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batair

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Or maybe Jesus was like the few thousand other humans who claim to be, know, or speak for God.

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08-28-2010 , 08:34 PM

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That is just good PR if you ask me.

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08-28-2010 , 11:47 PM

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LVGambler

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Originally Posted by Gunth0807

Go study the definition of death...

False.

False.

There are proofs other then a video camera.

Yes.

False.

Well yea, because you are you. If you were God or maybe a government of a country, they money you create could be worth something.

False. Lets say you create a human being, through cloning measures or w/e. Does that human being not feel pain/pleasure, love and happiness/ hate and sadness? Is it not capable of doing things of value? You must value no life at all. What a surprise.

LoL i would much rather have 2 or 3 jobs then to work every day all day for people like yourself and receive a bunch of torture as payment. Christ's job consisted of many.

Yawn (*_*)zzZ

False must not mean what you think it does. Reality, there's another challenging word for you.. obviously.

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08-29-2010 , 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LVGambler

Yawn (*_*)zzZ

False must not mean what you think it does. Reality, there's another challenging word for you.. obviously.

He's mostly right though, but ofcourse, he's speaking from the Christian perspective and you from another perspective.

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08-29-2010 , 07:01 PM

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is this thread over without discussing this one?

The Moral-Example Theory (or Moral-Influence Theory): Christ died to influence mankind toward moral improvement. This theory denies that Christ died to satisfy any principle of divine justice, but teaches instead that His death was designed to greatly impress mankind with a sense of God's love, resulting in softening their hearts and leading them to repentance. Thus, the Atonement is not directed towards God with the purpose of maintaining His justice, but towards man with the purpose of persuading him to right action. Formulated by Peter Abelard (1079-1142)

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08-29-2010 , 08:24 PM

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LVGambler

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Perspectives and ideas.. that's all religion is (to me). And doctrines are just examples of that (see above).

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08-29-2010 , 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aigyptos

He's mostly right though, but ofcourse, he's speaking from the Christian perspective and you from another perspective.

He's speaking from a specific Christian perspective. There are lots of different Christian perspectives.. as there are many branches of Christianity. I guess they don't all agree with each other.