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There is a chair in the room I’m currently in. If I were to communicate to you a stream of facts and observations of the chair based on different views, am I teaching you about reality? By your definition I am.

Our interest in reality is based in our interest in ultimate reality, or the highest reality. The same with truth.

The current version of self wants to protect its current version of reality against a higher version of self associated with higher reality. In this way, self-development is associated with ultimate reality.

The best way to communicate this hidden story of conflict between selves on the path toward ultimate reality is through other stories. Since the self exists in the the world, many of these stories will be set in the world.

In Christianity, Jesus represents the highest version of self associated with ultimate reality.

Now that I explained my view of reality, go ahead and explain it better.. in a way I will agree with.

Is the chair part of reality?

The Jesus story is a personification of an archetype smuggled into "history" via myth by a wildly superstitious and magic believing culture. Is it part of reality?

Yes, it’s part of the reality of the world. Is the idea that murder is wrong true?

The tyrant always argues against the most uncharitable framing of his opponents’ views.

Yeah ... who's the tyrant? The one who claims to know the mind and will of god almighty and poses as an emissary of its message, or the one who says, "Well, it's a great mystery, certainly with great spiritual truths in it to be gleaned?"

Which one?

Here is your orientation and your mistake:

Ultimate reality = the religion I believe in.

You have to think you are special and unique to carry on like that. Otherwise everybody can do the same thing for their religion and they have the exact legitimacy that you do.

I’m not even part of the Christian community. I post on a religion subforum about deeper meanings found in Christianity to encourage. Yet you have made me your enemy.

You come to this subforum to undermine Christianity in the most uncharitable ways. You are the tyrant.

I gather that from time to time. Which god is yours? What makes you a spokesman for the truth about god?

Christians aren't my enemy, religion isn't my enemy. I have said that several times. Lying arse apologetics for religions is my enemy, and I am a bit militant in exposing that. Posing as a spokesman for god almighty is close to the same thing in my book.

You’re way too one dimensional in your anti-theistic militancy. The truth is much more dynamic.

I got close to God because I turned my desire for revenge against him into a full-time project. One of us is willing to get his hands dirty and then there’s you, smearing Christians like a coward instead of facing God.

The moronic god concept is maintained by militant sycophants that want to hold the rest of humanity under their fascist sway.

Which god? God is a "him?" Where did you get that? You sound kind of doltish, kind of sheep-ish. Is there evidence your god is any different than the litany of others that are fictitious? What is it? I'll go out on a limb: You have NOTHING on that. If it was imaginary, it would be exactly as hidden as it is right now.

My hands are plenty dirty on the subject. I've consumed thousands of books and videos and written several on the subject. The difference between us is this: I know where my vast spiritual repertoire emanates from: nature. If someone claims their's comes from supernature, well, they have a burden of proof that such exists. If they skip that step and just call some mysterious god "him" because ignorant, superstitious goat herders did thousands of years ago, they replace a known reality with a fantasy, and the god they point to is a wishful projection. When you call god "him" because bigoted goat herders did and for no other reason, you are not on any path of enlightenment but simply parroting superstition.

Who's the god? Name "him."

When it’s time to confront the bully, you pick up a book..

In order for the puppet to remain a puppet, he must never focus his attention on himself in self-awareness, or else he might discover his own strings.

Magical stand-in religion ("I'll save you") and scapegoatism is about being a puppet and evading self-awareness. Humanism is about taking responsibility, getting into the nature of human consciousness and the nature of being human (no magic solutions from heaven). As usual, your accusations are pure projection. What you see outside of religion is inherent in the religion.

If you won't name the god ... your a totally bogus impostor.

I think that's really gonna end it. The guy won't name the god her personally speaks for and has all these esoteric revelations about. I don't think he's gonna do it.

Christianity is the way, but the Christians won’t be able to navigate through, and Christianity will continue its demise. Only the children of Ishmael, who is the rejected one, will have the chance to resurrect the hope and promise of Christianity. The two brothers must reunite or it’s game over.

Many potential futures end in destruction. This is the only one that can prevail.

This is what has been written since the beginning. At the same time, the future is up in the air and TBD. Hold the contradiction.

How many sperm die before one can bring new life into the world?

How many have died in the 2,000 years since Jesus until now?

We cannot win this game in the external world where the human being can only die once. The entire story must be imported into the world within where a man can die and still live. All the versions of self which will fail must die until one remains. Then, the chance of success becomes 100%.

We want to play the game in the external world because there is light and we think we can see, but it’s a deception. It’s a fake light.

We have to be willing to play the difficult version of the game, internally in the dark where the monsters are waiting. The Son of Man is the light of the world, but not that world.

The versions of self which fail and die - they are to accept the story + death of the one, becoming one with him. In the story of the one, they will make it through and live because the one who would remain doesn’t die. As within so without.

Those who identify with the one from the beginning (most Christians) will have great difficulty navigating through the entire story. Ishmael is the origin story of those who will lead. He is the one abandoned by the father, abandoned by God. First, his children must accept his story. They are not the chosen ones.

Just like how Neo was told by the all knowing Oracle he is not the chosen one. It’s all part of the story. The last will be first. Humanity co-authors the story, but this is the structure we must accept in order to prevail.

The Christian who can believe in this — that the rejected children of Ishmael who become Christian are the actual chosen ones — this Christian can begin to identify with Ishmael’s origin story. Again, the brothers must become one in order to navigate through to the end.