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08-14-2023 , 02:11 AM
"We have found god. Guess who his chosen people is? Us!! And guess what? "He" is a male chauvinist like us. He's against homosexuality like us. He's into blood sacrifices like us. He's vengeful and judgmental like us. And we will use this god as a scourge on decency..."

To swallow the barbarism of this thousands of years later as sensible and legitimate and valid and believable seems kind of dubious. No?
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08-14-2023 , 03:12 AM
God is a moron; like His believers!
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08-14-2023 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
God is a moron; like His believers!
Well I get you but many of them are smart but refuse to be on this one subject. It is exempted from intelligence, analysis, critical thinking, and even reality. So a 150 IQ can easily be a believer.
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08-19-2023 , 09:34 PM
"I believe in magic stories from thousands of years ago, and that's my final answer! In fact, it is a testament of my morality how final that answer is."

This is the brain on religion. It's understandable, because the hooks of the thing are way deeper than rationality, way down in the primal belonging and emotion realms.
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08-27-2023 , 12:37 AM
Whatever the religious figure one claims a relationship with, it is actually a relationship with an archetype of human life and consciousness. In this sense, it can be constructive and "real," it's just that the "being" on the other side of it is actually a projection. This system can be used for good, but in keeping with human nature is often used for appalling immorality.
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08-31-2023 , 09:46 PM
The ignorant bigotry of the religion, which, I'm sorry, is not informed by an omniscient god but by human prejudices, is a black mark against morality, decency, humanism, love. "Yeah but 2000 years ago it was the way they thought, and they say they got it from god ... who am I then to assess it? It's my job to believe it."

With every thought, reply and step practically, the true believer is reinforcing, never actually considering, their position. The idea that maybe magic stories of murderous loving gods are NOT actually the source of morality, that bigotry towards other people is NOT justified, is off-limits to them. As in: "We aren't agents; we are sheep."

Last edited by FellaGaga-52; 08-31-2023 at 09:53 PM.
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09-03-2023 , 06:03 PM
We have these magic stories from thousands of years ago, and if you don't believe them you are going to hell. It's called religion.
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09-25-2023 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
We have these magic stories from thousands of years ago, and if you don't believe them you are going to hell. It's called religion.
Myopia is difficult, at times, to escape.

The first challenge for Christians and the like is to find a way out of the context of "God" and see the polytheism for what it really is.

The second is to come to a comprehension of the massive differentiation of cosmology and trajectories of presumed essentialities, their affect on moral contentions, etc.

With such evaluations, it quickly becomes apparent that a great deal of stupidity and ignorance are afoot, and religion is way more complex than are dreamt about in your localized cult, Horatio.

For doctrinal religions, the focus on belief acts as a type of mind control.
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09-27-2023 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyCheat
Myopia is difficult, at times, to escape.

The first challenge for Christians and the like is to find a way out of the context of "God" and see the polytheism for what it really is.

The second is to come to a comprehension of the massive differentiation of cosmology and trajectories of presumed essentialities, their affect on moral contentions, etc.

With such evaluations, it quickly becomes apparent that a great deal of stupidity and ignorance are afoot, and religion is way more complex than are dreamt about in your localized cult, Horatio.

For doctrinal religions, the focus on belief acts as a type of mind control.
Agreed it is very difficult to escape the "I really need to believe this" mindset. There really isn't much of an issue with any conflict with reality because the mind is just set on auto believe and total dismissal of inconvenient realities. I just quoted a psychiatrist tonight, who said: "It is amazing how the desire to believe crushes realistic thinking."

When trapped in this "must believe" mindset, the killing of every child, baby and fetus on earth (the Great Flood), is loving and righteous. It starts with the deep subconscious thought: "No matter what, I have to believe this and defend it."
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