The Bible in its 3/4ths of a million+ words never mentions the pancreas, the pituitary gland, the spleen, the prostate, DNA, neurotransmitters, thalamus, bladder, fascia, and thousands more parts of the body.

It never mentions the fine-tuned constants used to argue for god, never mentions the speed of light, the trillions of galaxies, though mentioning the sun nearly 200 times strangely never mentions fusion, never mentions antibiotics ... etc. etc. etc. ad nearly infinitum.

Could it be that that they only had rudimentary knowledge of these subjects, anatomy, medicine, science in general, instead of having access to omniscience? Is this a possibility?

btw, if this was how you'd answered my question in the other thread "why do you believe in Christianity" I'd have completely believed it was the reason (regardless of whether "solves the mystery" means "correctly solves the mystery").

Here I'll "solve" how the sun came into existence: A spirit did it.

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The Godhead (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit) brought the sun into existence.

So?

So?

The Bible writers certainly had virtually zero knowledge of any of the things you list above. So what?

Meanwhile the Bible is inspired and informed by omniscience. DUCY that's a problem? It purports to address the origin of the universe and of man and it has NOTHING on the subject but spirit over the water, dust, ribs. In other words, where it could have offered enormous knowledge and understanding and been utterly convincing, it had nothing but borrowed legend and superstition.

I thought we were done. I'm not reasonable on the subject of metaphysics, religion, myth, fable, superstition, etc. ... like you are.

I was thinking of the spirit of Jacob Marley. I have faith that he did it. And you are going to hell if you don't believe it. Nice game.

Who or what is your authority, and why do you trust it?

I agree, you are not reasonable on those subjects. But you are way too modest: you are unreasonable on virtually every topic with which you "engage." Please give yourself more credit: your unreasonableness is vast and permeates pretty much all of your posts.

Anyway, I find your incoherent rants somewhat amusing. I look forward to your next rant.

If you are looking for the answers to the origins and mysteries of the universe use reason. If you are looking to assuage existential anxiety regarding being and uncertainty, use faith. If you had all the answers to the great questions in Sunday School when you were kindergarten age - meaning, never mind the bogus pursuits of Einstein and Hawking, etc. - then a big congratulations to you. The day may be coming when your brethren of the faith may get to burn such heathens at the stake once again.

No, it solves none of these.

"I can't explain it, therefore...magic."

Guess what is behind intractable fanaticism. Same as it ever was: fear. Nothing wrong with fear; it's a basic human emotion. But using this fear/stubborness/fanaticism dynamic as an underpinning of a world view, and as an override of reality and rationality, isn't very solid or admirable as an epistemology.

If the god of the Bible was a projection of ancient man we would expect it to be:

bigoted, brutal, jealous, wrathful, misogynist, superstitious, slave advocating, judgmental, all-powerful, omniscient, ignorant of science, a father instead of a mother fulfilling the missing father role, telling "me" I'm a chosen one, and saving from death.

Voila. Even with directly opposing traits it delivers. Religion can be slippery like that. Tell me where I'm wrong without using pitiful apologetics.

“God is not a Christian, God is not a Jew, or a Muslim, or a Hindu, or a Buddhist. All of those are human systems which human beings have created to try to help us walk into the mystery of God. I honor my tradition, I walk through my tradition, but I don't think my tradition defines God, I think it only points me to God.” ~ Bishop John Shelby Spong via Terri Miller

Judgment is the opposite of love. Such a story just doesn't hold up. It is an attempt of primitive civilization to understand, that's all. Why not tell your child you have such and such a time to get yourself in line or you are going to judge them then kill them? Then you will be like the god character of the Bible. You know ... perfect love. GTFOOH. There's little doubt what this story is. An ancient, mythical, deeply flawed while also movingly spiritual attempt to get to the divine.

Judging negatively the character occupying the god position IS part of the story. That character hates being judged in a bad light though. He will convince you that the story isn’t real and that he isn’t real in order to avoid negative judgment. The only way to paradise is THROUGH that character.

The Son of Man picks up the serpent and holds it up to the heavens. Then, the serpent transforms into food and that becomes the food that fills.

First ... bullshyt.

Second, the being can't exist that "is love" and "is judgmental" unless "he" (what a joke the he thing is) is packing way more cognitive dissonance than man (and we are told this is impossible in the story).

Third, unless you are some kind of AI, or something comparable, which I now assign a probability of .02 (way up from before when I had it at 99.9% chance a cocktail of self-delusion, indoctrination/religion-designing) ... you just can't be right.

Fourth, I don't get the last sentence of the first paragraph. Explain that a little better, and instead of being obtuse, allusional, poetic, vague, etc. ... explain exactly how that works if you claim to know.

Fifth, why would you write that final sentence about the snake and the manna in that fashion unless, A. you are going for deepity effect, B. you have some kind of messiah complex, C. you really are AI/God's gift to religious truth, D. you didn't realize that snake meat was already food simply because you aren't from a culture that enjoys that delicacy, E. you've stated the secret that is anathema to the orthodox view and is quite a revelation of gnosticism?

https://youtu.be/6jq1RE2_nnQ

I don't know which is worse, the BS long-winded sophistry revealing the mind of god (actually just revealing one's delusion that they know it), or this link only cat-got-your-tongue style response ... each purporting inanely to deliver profound answers about The Great Mystery.

Billions of people before you have fancied themselves divinity experts, repping any number of gods. All of them were wrong and you are wrong. Go write 1000 questions over the next three years, about one a day, while speaking or writing zero answers, and then you are a worthy sojourner instead of a deluded BSer.

You don't have the answers to The Great Mystery. The very idea and implementation of the idea that you do is preposterous. Look at history. You are not the chosen one. You are just like all the other ones who "solved" it. You don't have any answers to the great questions. You might have some tweaks to the questions, but only if you quit bluffing like you are the Theology Answer Man.

Color me a skeptic, I guess. You don't get to say there were tales of magic thousands of years ago and you believe it because they believe it. Why not? If some preacher today says they healed an amputee and the limb grew back, you know it is BS fraud as soon as you hear it. Why is that? I repeat, why is that? The legend is, if you choose to believe it, that god can do it easy. But you know it doesn't happen.

On the outside of despair looking in, all you see are false prophets. It’s only once you descend into despair will you have a chance to discern truth from falsity.

You are like the person standing at the edge of the freezing cold swimming pool, paralyzed because you can’t rationalize your way to jumping in. Then you rationalize walking away but eventually find yourself back at the edge. Back and forth, repeating the cycle. Meanwhile, nothing changes for you.

How do you accept this behavior from yourself?

Uh..... what are you talking about?

I ask myself that question almost every time I finish reading one of his posts.

Anyone who has no expectations for life beyond what is given to them will be kept separate from the higher/deeper truths.

Craig has managed to do the improbable: unify fundamentalist Christians, agnostics, and atheists.

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.”