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Do you believe in God? Do you believe in God?

03-24-2024 , 10:08 AM
To the best of my understanding I think Muslims might view "God" (the God that is being written about in the Quran) as some far off person that only wants to put humanity to a test (I don't understand their religion perfectly) in order to reward or punish them, and then they ascribe certain things to him because that is what the Quran says that he is like. From my own understanding, the Bible is not really like that. This is just based on my limited understanding though, but I have read the Quran and interacted with Muslims on a limited basis (have been to a Mosque and talked with Muslims a few times) and know what I know from YouTube and elsewhere.
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03-29-2024 , 09:36 PM
In deciding which religion to adopt, if any, we don't get to start with, "Okay, there is a special set of rules here. Magic is fine, supernatural claims are fine, the rules of reality and nature don't need to be obeyed here." No, you start with reality. A reality based religion is the only one feasible under the sun. We don't get to start with the supernatural doctrines from pre-rational, pre-scientific, superstitious cultures. You start with reality. How does reality work? Do we feed the multitudes with a few fish then go walk on water? No. That's a story. In reality, in a non-story time belief system, we might lean toward Einstein's "cosmos-based" religion. After all, the stars created mankind, not some magic genie poofing the world into being. That's a magic story.
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04-08-2024 , 06:35 AM
Is god showing his wrath via the solar eclipse? Do we need to sacrifice goats, people, and maybe even part of god himself to ward off the judgment? If not ... why not? That's what the people who devised the religion believed. Can you extricate yourself from these kinds of systems of belief, so obviously primitive, ignorant, superstitious and fictional? Can we move our knowledge and understanding along out of the 1st Century on ALL tenets of the religion, and leave behind what needs to be left behind, keep what is valuable and reasonable ... and end up in a less fictional belief system?
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04-09-2024 , 06:55 PM
Signs you’re missing something important and it’s time to detach yourself from your current truth-seeking position:

(1) You haven’t yet reached the promised land

(2) You’re starting to completely dismiss the time tested religious position of a group of people around you

Point #2 doesn’t mean the group is completely right or even close to completely right, but to see a group of people as entirely detached from truth and reality is a red flag indicating you’re in the wrong position.
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04-10-2024 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
In regard to religion, Jack Kornfield writes of "the essence beneath the story." The story is Jesus, the story is Buddha, the story is Muhammad, the story is Krishna, the story is Zeus, the story is The Great Spirit. The essence is the underlying values and need for values. A myth is a myth, a magic story is a magic story, an archetype is an archetype. Many such narratives are fashioned across cultures. If they are identified as pre-scientific amalgam of attempts at understanding human existence, they can offer something. Their claims are no more exclusionary of each other than Harry Potter is to Spiderman. They are what they are: facets of Huxley's "perennial philosophy" ... borne of a human impulse as real as the love of music. When the study of this is moved away from magic stories and superstitions to the nature of human consciousness, a different picture entirely emerges. Then the phenomenon of dueling religions is seen for what it is: a fallacious type of perspective.
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Originally Posted by craig1120
Signs you’re missing something important and it’s time to detach yourself from your current truth-seeking position:

(1) You haven’t yet reached the promised land

(2) You’re starting to completely dismiss the time tested religious position of a group of people around you

Point #2 doesn’t mean the group is completely right or even close to completely right, but to see a group of people as entirely detached from truth and reality is a red flag indicating you’re in the wrong position.

And so if you are in China, or Russia, or Nepal, or India, or Haiti, or Africa ... if you are detached from the religious beliefs around you that's a red flag?? Or is it just in the "right believing" cultures?

But here is an even better point. If your religious belief emanates from the 1st Century, take a look at just what percentage of what they thought and believed then is true, on every subject under the sun. And then you realize the colossal foolishness of arguing in this manner, on religion or for any of their other beliefs. You might as well be arguing the earth is flat and that demons cause leprosy. THAT is how you are limiting your worldview.

Last edited by FellaGaga-52; 04-10-2024 at 09:34 PM.
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