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02-19-2014 , 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by neeeel

So if you are right, you are superior? interesting

No, atheism provides an easy way for human beings to be like "G-d", so it's one of the most comfortable forms of idolatry.

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02-19-2014 , 08:51 PM

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No, atheism provides an easy way for human beings to be like "G-d", so it's one of the most comfortable forms of idolatry.

What? Surely its impossible to be like god?

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02-19-2014 , 09:28 PM

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I was talking about picking low hanging fruit - a Dawkins specialty.

Isn't that what you are doing right now?

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02-19-2014 , 11:16 PM

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Have you ever wondered why it is that atheism might provide a feeling of superiority? And why theism engenders mockery?

I know exactly why. Have you ever wondered why lame brains like Dawkins can't come up with anything except mockery and running away from people like WLC?

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02-19-2014 , 11:18 PM

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For those who might miss it. Not Ready with this post admits the pastor's actions, and thus his beliefs, were ridiculous.

Only his beliefs about handling serpents and not seeking medical aid. For the record, DS hasn't denied studying under Dawkins.

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02-20-2014 , 02:19 AM

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So if you are right, you are superior? interesting

So "feeling like they might" is the same as "is"? interesting

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02-20-2014 , 02:51 AM

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So "feeling like they might" is the same as "is"? interesting

What good is it to feel superior if the reality is you're just a schlub like everyone else? That's kind of delusional, isn't it?

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02-20-2014 , 02:57 AM

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Only his beliefs about handling serpents and not seeking medical aid. For the record, DS hasn't denied studying under Dawkins.

Coots was, according to the link, an "ardent Pentecostal believer." As such, he would also have believed in the legitimacy of speaking in tongues and divine healing. Do you still stand by the "only" above?

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02-20-2014 , 03:02 AM

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What good is it to feel superior if the reality is you're just a schlub like everyone else? That's kind of delusional, isn't it?

What good is it to feel superior if you are not a schlub?

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02-20-2014 , 04:47 AM

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I know exactly why.

Why do think it is then?

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Have you ever wondered why lame brains like Dawkins can't come up with anything except mockery and running away from people like WLC?

For someone so quick to jump on the perceived use of insult and mockery, you're very quick to do it yourself, you did it with the 'even a brain dead rock' comment too.

Dawkins refuses to debate WLC because he feels that to do so would give what WLC has to say an undeserved credibility. Or it might be that he's worried that WLC will talk circles around him, with the same result. I think that if Dawkins refuses to engage because he can see that WLC is the better philosopher, then maybe he's not such a lame brain after all.

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02-20-2014 , 11:27 AM

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What good is it to feel superior if you are not a schlub?

It's good to be attuned to reality.

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02-20-2014 , 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sabres51

We are supposed to discern the spirits, my friend.

Anyone that tells you to not judge is usually living in a fantasy world, full of sin. They say that to justify their stupid living and corrupt ways. Do you ever see a righteous man (God says nobody is good, according to His standards) on this planet that tells you not to judge?

Like that knucklehead with the snake, the fantasy land will eventually end and the bill has to be paid.

Those of you that don't believe in an afterlife or judgement are the biggest suckers around this planet and are living out a big delusion.

Discover the color red and you might get a new life.

There's adifference between saying what is good and what is evil than to say that someone isnt a Christian.

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02-20-2014 , 03:36 PM

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I know exactly why. Have you ever wondered why lame brains like Dawkins can't come up with anything except mockery and running away from people like WLC?

LOLbrian

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02-20-2014 , 05:01 PM

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I would include anything he believed that is obviously wrong and foolish.

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02-20-2014 , 05:09 PM

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Why do think it is then?

The arrogance of man in general, the inability of science types to think beyond their own noses, no matter how high their IQ, for people like Dawkins.

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For someone so quick to jump on the perceived use of insult and mockery, you're very quick to do it yourself, you did it with the 'even a brain dead rock' comment too.

I try hard to limit my insults and mockery to responses, maybe I don't always succeed, maybe I shouldn't use it at all. I also don't try to find unknown, stupid, harmless atheists and ridicule them, but I consider people like Dawkins and Krauss to be fair game.

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Dawkins refuses to debate WLC because he feels that to do so would give what WLC has to say an undeserved credibility.

I'm aware of his obvious rationalizing.

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I think that if Dawkins refuses to engage because he can see that WLC is the better philosopher, then maybe he's not such a lame brain after all.

I agree he's smart to avoid WLC, but that then raises the question of his honesty.

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02-20-2014 , 05:19 PM

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The arrogance of man in general, the inability of science types to think beyond their own noses, no matter how high their IQ, for people like Dawkins.

I'd suggest we owe much of our achievements to the ability of 'science types' to think beyond their own noses.

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02-20-2014 , 05:40 PM

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I'd suggest we owe much of our achievements to the ability of 'science types' to think beyond their own noses.

Only about science.

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02-20-2014 , 05:44 PM

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Only ?

I dread to think where we'd be without these science types...

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02-20-2014 , 06:19 PM

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Only ?

I dread to think where we'd be without these science types...

You're proving my point.

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02-20-2014 , 09:25 PM

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Only about science.

Yea, like Heisenberg, popper, feynman.

Seriously, is the above generalization based on anything besides a general disdain for science?

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02-20-2014 , 09:27 PM

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Yea, like Heisenberg, popper, feynman.

Seriously, is the above generalization based on anything besides a general disdain for science?

What disdain for science?

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02-20-2014 , 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NotReady

What disdain for science?

uh huh

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02-20-2014 , 09:46 PM

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Not Ready does not have a disdain for science. What he has, like most people religious or otherwise is a lack of understanding that being great at science, especially math related science, makes you a big favorite when you are arguing subjects involving logic with people without scientific knowledge and abilities. A favorite, not the nuts. Sort of how someone who can run a 9.5 hundred and press 400 lbs is likely to be a better linebacker than someone who does 11 and 250. Likely but not certain

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02-20-2014 , 10:15 PM

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It's good to be attuned to reality.

...hence, atheism.

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02-20-2014 , 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haywood

Good moment to ask about the origin of snakes. According to my son's third grade teacher, lizards became snakes not by evolving but as punishment for the fall. A lizard tempted Eve with the apple, and afterwards was punished by God to crawl on the ground and eat dust all of his days as a snake.

But most accounts indicate it was a serpent that tempted Eve. So how did it exist already?

Anyone?

I wrote a paper on this

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