Maybe being afraid for you would upset her pregnancy. Count it as a blessing in disguise.

The explanation of the dogma:

Freewill versus Ownership
http://gods-kingdom-ministries.org/c...klet.cfm?PID=7


The explanation of the reality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVb-lFZ3DlA

Nah. It was more like I didn't have a big enough life insurance policy for her to go on as a single mother if I died!

I'd much prefer hearing it from you rather than reading from a professional apologetic link. We are after all, discussing this on a personal level. But if you can't explain it on your own, I understand.

Yeah a priest or a better yet, a health care professional. Basically any psychiatrist with ethics, unlike the crazy version portrayed in the movie.

That is not earth shattering. It's just insane.

That's not an apologetics link.

And not everything can be discussed on a personal level.

Besides most people only confide the personal to other people they trust. There's no reason to trust anyone in cyberspace especially when the cyberspace group they are in is busy trying to actively tear down every good thing Jesus Christ tries to build up in people.

Like I said the insecure gravitate to the insecure. But Jesus Christ breaks people out of failure and insecurity all the time. He defies gravity and he has gravitational pull...otherwise why are all these atheists circling him all the time trying to understand?

Jesus Christ breaks all the rules....He defies gravity...and death is like gravity...it ultimately pulls you down...but Jesus Christ ascended over gravity....He overcame death.

Seems like this should be scrawled in the notebook of a serial killer.

Determined to have a mean mouth, huh?

You don't ascend to Heaven without a master any more than you ascended the skies to sky dive without a sky dive master.

You can be chicken**** and stay on the ground though afraid of what the ascension will require of you.

All atheism fosters is indecision...which religion is right? Who's the master? Who's telling the truth?

Doing it...taking the plunge reveals more...though sometimes it could take more than one plunge...(success at anything always requires persevering doesn't it...even if it hurts).

Of course, you have to be mentally ready to take a plunge...Some people aren't and/or will never be able to handle sky diving so they ad hoc rationalize a million reasons for it...When the truth is they could never get in the mental state ready to take the first step...

I like the way each sentence is a new line in your posts, it reminds me of something.. what was it again? Oh yeah

Yeah, you're fantasizing again.

I've got 2 or 3 speeding tickets to my credit but never done any killing and I have no serial killers in the family.

Keep on making stuff up though I know a lot of people feel the need to defend themselves. Didn't you know constant joking is a sign of insecurity? The more secure a person is the less he feels the need to joke around and/or make a mockery of everything good in life.

FYP

Yeah, well women don't interpret things the same way a guy does.

Brain differences from all the estrogen, y'know.

Splendour - You're waaay over complicating this with links and philosophical meanderings. I'm just trying to understand (in your own words) how you can have 100% free will, while god is in complete control. It doesn't make sense...

If a woman wants to have an abortion and god is against it, who wins? If she aborts the pregnancy, god is not in control. Even if god only manipulates her thought process into thinking she shouldn't go through with the abortion, then she does not have 100% free will.

There can be more than one level to reality.

You can grant God permission to enter yours. It doesn't mean he didn't already shape you and the world because He did.

See Psalm 139.

He allows and respects your Personhood but there's nothing that makes the devil respect you. The devil is a manipulator.

But if you must grant god permission then he is not in complete control. Make sense?

No it means he respects your personhood.

He could take control of you once you're dead.

He obviously does take control of people if he resurrects them for a Last Judgment.

You should study universalism. No master teacher required for ascension.

Christian Universalists believe in Jesus Christ.

They never say he isn't The Way.

They say i dont need him to teach me The Way to ascend.

Please read up on it and don't assume.

I think its you who needs to read up on it based on your many posts contradicting it. But i think ill let it go...

I have never explained everything. No one would ever let me.

Instead I linked the details.

If no one had the interest to inform themselves by reading them than what can I say. I tried to help. I'm suppose to overcome people's resistance to being helped? I've already spent 8 years trying to do that. Time to move on where people aren't so stubborn.

So if someone intends to kill Mary, but god wants Mary to remain alive, what happens to Marry?

Seriously Splendour. Let's keep this simple. I'm trying to figure out what you actually think and believe. It's not easy because you keep going off on 20 different avenues that all lead right back to where we started. Can't you please stay on track for just this one simple question?

6-years and 18,000 posts? Never gonna happen.

This question doesn't interest me thanks.

I just drew your attention to a side topic but I never intended to participate fully itt.

Did Jesus ever masturbate? That's an important question..I bet he was a sinner