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The Covenant of Justice and Forgiveness The Covenant of Justice and Forgiveness

12-13-2023 , 05:02 PM
Our sense of moral superiority is largely built on a foundation of righteous indignation. It is a response to our past experiences of victimization.

As we get older, we grow frustrated and weary of living in a world that is unjust. The person who works hard and looks out for others is left struggling while the callous get unfairly rewarded. We cling to our moral superiority in the privacy of our mind as a cope. Still, the desire for justice becomes stronger.

The son has a standing offer from the father. It is an offer of justice in his life, but in exchange, his righteous indignation must be sacrificed up, be filtered through the name of justice, and only then returned back to the son. Further, the son must be in relationship with the judge who judges righteously. Justice must be total, which includes the son himself.

Now, the son doesn’t want to hear this. The idea that his desire for retribution in response to the injustice done to him should be questioned - this is outrageous to him. His righteous indignation is already just! He needs justice for everyone else.

For so many, their pride is entirely built on this victimhood and moral superiority. Surrendering their pride, victimhood, moral indignation, and moral superiority is too much to ask. It’s too much of a fall. However, without this sacrifice the desire for both justice and retribution will never be fulfilled. If the sacrifice is made, all of these things will be returned to the son, but it will be a just victimhood, a true moral superiority, and a real pride.

Except through this covenant, the son cannot be forgiven by and reunited with the father. In other words, without truly forgiving others via this surrendering, especially those who have wronged the son, he won’t be forgiven by the father and won’t have justice in his life.

Last edited by craig1120; 12-13-2023 at 05:13 PM.
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12-13-2023 , 08:47 PM
There is a part of the son that is not interested in being reunited with the father. This part only cares about getting revenge on the father for ripping paradise away from and abandoning the child in the dark. Like a wolf in sheep’s clothing, this one sees the covenant as an opportunity to get close to the father and fulfill his mission.

The father knows about this one and his intentions. Despite this, the father will still honor the agreement with the son as long as the son fulfills his side of it.
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12-14-2023 , 01:46 AM
The story I’ve been laying out on this forum is the story you enter into reluctantly. It’s not an appealing story, but it is the deepest and most aligned with truth and reality.

In the appealing stories, there is nothing redemptive about suffering. Suffering simply undermines those stories. But for the Christian story I’ve been describing, suffering is both an entry point into the story as well as the fuel needed to progress through it.

In this way, my story will necessarily be the secondary (background) story to whichever appealing story you use as your primary story, whether Christian or not. To not use my story as a secondary story would be to waste the silver lining present in suffering. It would mean that you are choosing to live in a reality of un-redemptive suffering. Even if you try to deny this truth — that you are choosing a reality of un-redemptive suffering for your self — it is what is actually happening.
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12-15-2023 , 01:52 AM
Your drivel just confirms your massive insanity. Stab yourself in the face and die.
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12-15-2023 , 02:51 AM
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Your drivel just confirms your massive insanity. Stab yourself in the face and die.
If the man doesn’t eat the lion, then the lion eats the man, and that man is cursed.
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12-15-2023 , 04:15 AM
The lion raped you! Your insidious drivel just Proves your own insanity.
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12-16-2023 , 02:19 PM
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But for the Christian story I’ve been describing, suffering is both an entry point into the story as well as the fuel needed to progress through it.
This story is risky and the potential for danger increases as the story progresses for anyone whose faith isn’t strong enough. Because of this, God makes it difficult to navigate through the story by concealing the way forward.

The only way to force God’s hand and prove to him that you are worthy of the challenges ahead is by spending time in the story, letting him know you are going nowhere. At some point, you must eventually reject the comfort and security of the more appealing stories and spend time in the meaning deficit and overall deprivation of the outer darkness where the lost and dead are.

When God sees you, not just voluntarily entering into deprivation and despair, but using the entirety of your will to remain there, he will have no choice but to reveal and illuminate the path forward. The one who doesn’t take no for an answer will be allowed to enter into the kingdom.
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12-16-2023 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by craig1120
This story is risky and the potential for danger increases as the story progresses for anyone whose faith isn’t strong enough. Because of this, God makes it difficult to navigate through the story by concealing the way forward.

The only way to force God’s hand and prove to him that you are worthy of the challenges ahead is by spending time in the story, letting him know you are going nowhere. At some point, you must eventually reject the comfort and security of the more appealing stories and spend time in the meaning deficit and overall deprivation of the outer darkness where the lost and dead are.

When God sees you, not just voluntarily entering into deprivation and despair, but using the entirety of your will to remain there, he will have no choice but to reveal and illuminate the path forward. The one who doesn’t take no for an answer will be allowed to enter into the kingdom.
Once you’ve opened the door to this story and stepped foot to a certain point, you won’t be able to go back.

For instance, if you are trying to live in an appealing story — which means you’re trying to limit negative feelings and maximize positive ones in the short term — and you feel emotionally flat, detached, etc, then it’s time to level up in my secondary, Christian story. If you are achieving or having experiences which should normally make you feel joy or happiness and you don’t feel it, then that means you need to level up in my secondary story.

The worst place to be is miserable yet deeply attached to an appealing story that is providing you insufficient meaning and happiness. Stuck and miserable. If you’re going to suffer in misery in the short term, at least enter into my secondary story for the sake of your future self.
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12-16-2023 , 07:51 PM
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Once you’ve opened the door to this story and stepped foot to a certain point, you won’t be able to go back.

For instance, if you are trying to live in an appealing story — which means you’re trying to limit negative feelings and maximize positive ones in the short term — and you feel emotionally flat, detached, etc, then it’s time to level up in my secondary, Christian story. If you are achieving or having experiences which should normally make you feel joy or happiness and you don’t feel it, then that means you need to level up in my secondary story.

The worst place to be is miserable yet deeply attached to an appealing story that is providing you insufficient meaning and happiness. Stuck and miserable. If you’re going to suffer in misery in the short term, at least enter into my secondary story for the sake of your future self.
The movie Groundhog Day is a good example of someone who is stuck and miserable in his primary, appealing story. By the end of the movie he is able to enter into the secondary story, level up, and get unstuck.

Use leaps of faith like this:

https://youtu.be/7NjNOAncIlI?si=qGV58E1I-Zo5NBSN
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12-16-2023 , 08:28 PM
Can you begin to see now what Christianity is in full?

It’s not just a primary, appealing story competing with other appealing stories. It’s the secondary, background story which unites all stories in the end.
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12-18-2023 , 03:11 AM
Understand that this thread is about the story of Cain and Abel.

I have described the offering Abel makes in the OP.

The movie Groundhog Day picks up the story after Cain becomes a “restless wanderer” in the world. Abel is the shepherd who leads the way. Cain must overcome himself and allow Abel the devout one to lead him. But Abel is dead and Cain has been marked.

Understand that the Son of Man knows how to resurrect the dead. If Cain is who he is meant to be, if he is the Son of Man, then he can resurrect Abel and he must resurrect Abel. Then, he must become a sheep to lose his mark.

Cain failed on his first try. He held back on the sacrifice, killed his brother Abel, and got marked as a threat. If he truly is the Son of Man, then he will learn from his mistakes, resurrect Abel, and try again.

Last edited by craig1120; 12-18-2023 at 03:19 AM.
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12-18-2023 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by craig1120
Understand that this thread is about the story of Cain and Abel.

I have described the offering Abel makes in the OP.

The movie Groundhog Day picks up the story after Cain becomes a “restless wanderer” in the world. Abel is the shepherd who leads the way. Cain must overcome himself and allow Abel the devout one to lead him. But Abel is dead and Cain has been marked.

Understand that the Son of Man knows how to resurrect the dead. If Cain is who he is meant to be, if he is the Son of Man, then he can resurrect Abel and he must resurrect Abel. Then, he must become a sheep to lose his mark.

Cain failed on his first try. He held back on the sacrifice, killed his brother Abel, and got marked as a threat. If he truly is the Son of Man, then he will learn from his mistakes, resurrect Abel, and try again.
You are not just a self in the world. You came down into this world for a purpose. To give up on your mission after an initial failure is to dishonor your soul.
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