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I believe in God and I will NOT be with someone who doesnt.
8 8.33%
I believe in God and I WILL be with someone who doesnt.
4 4.17%
I DONT believe in God and I will NOT be with someone who does.
33 34.38%
I DONT believe in God and I will be with someone who does.
51 53.13%

07-28-2010 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Butcho22
did any atheist say they would be with a religious person if they were hot enough? no..but way to claim you know what they're thinking with no basis whatsoever!
Well ILP said he had the "skinny" requirement. Skinny is a carnal idea whether or not you find skinny "hot".

I was actually rather perturbed reading about his girlfriend the other day because you could tell by her face she was a rather sensitive girl. But I guess that is what the carnal mind makes you do: dwell on and share the carnal oblivious to other considerations.
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07-28-2010 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
There's two ways to approach the world. Either carnally or spiritually.

Only the individual gets to make the personal call which way he will approach it.

You decide to lead with the higher values or not. Most of the time you have to learn to heed the higher values before you observe them regularly.

Though I guess the group you associate with impacts your values.
How can i make the call to be spiritual? Is there a switch i dont know about that i can turn on.
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07-28-2010 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
How can i make the call to be spiritual? Is there a switch i dont know about that i can turn on.
Read the New Testament.
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07-28-2010 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Read the New Testament.
Thats what stopped me form being spiritual.
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07-28-2010 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Well ILP said he had the "skinny" requirement. Skinny is a carnal idea whether or not you find skinny "hot".

I was actually rather perturbed reading about his girlfriend the other day because you could tell by her face she was a rather sensitive girl. But I guess that is what the carnal mind makes you do: dwell on and share the carnal oblivious to other considerations.
he has that requirement no matter if they're atheist or religious. its not news to anyone that being attracted to your potential life partner is important.
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07-28-2010 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Butcho22
he has that requirement no matter if they're atheist or religious. its not news to anyone that being attracted to your potential life partner is important.
This is just run of the mill social correctness thinking excusing the basest human motivations as normal.

If you study the major religions then study the minds they generate along with the claims. That will tell you which one is the true religion.
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07-28-2010 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
This is just run of the mill social correctness thinking excusing the basest human motivations as normal.
lol

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If you study the major religions then study the minds they generate along with the claims. That will tell you which one is the true religion.
lol
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07-28-2010 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dying Actors
lol



lol
Go ahead and let that carnal mind control you.

But there is a difference between having a spiritual mind and having a carnal one.

Buddhism cuts off the carnal mind. Maybe that's why they can focus on acts of compassion. With Judaism no mind is spoken of being given at all. With Islam the religion seems like a reaction to the carnalness of human beings. (Esau was the carnal brother who sold his birthright for a meal of lentils.)

In some religions they practice abstinence and fasting to an extreme degree. It seems that they give too much power to carnality by overcompensation. Imho you can give it power either way: by too much attention or too little attention.

Rumi's poem:

Fasting

There's hidden sweetness in the stomach's emptiness.
We are lutes, no more, no less. If the soundbox
is stuffed full of anything, no music.
If the brain and belly are burning clean
with fasting, every moment a new song comes out of the fire.
The fog clears, and new energy makes you
run up the steps in front of you.
Be emptier and cry like reed instruments cry.
Emptier, write secrets with the reed pen.
When you're full of food and drink, Satan sits
where your spirit should, an ugly metal statue
in place of the Kaaba. When you fast,
good habits gather like friends who want to help.
Fasting is Solomon's ring. Don't give it
to some illusion and lose your power,
but even if you have, if you've lost all will and control,
they come back when you fast, like soldiers appearing
out of the ground, pennants flying above them.
A table descends to your tents,
Jesus' table.
Expect to see it, when you fast, this table
spread with other food, better than the broth of cabbages.

(But mostly we give it power by being unaware of it.)

Last edited by Splendour; 07-28-2010 at 03:24 PM. Reason: added statement in parentheses.
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07-28-2010 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Go ahead and let that carnal mind control you.

But there is a difference between having a spiritual mind and having a carnal one.

Buddhism cuts off the carnal mind. Maybe that's why they can focus on acts of compassion. With Judaism no mind is spoken of being given at all. With Islam the religion seems like a reaction to the carnalness of human beings. (Esau was the carnal brother who sold his birthright for a meal of lentils.)

In some religions they practice abstinence and fasting to an extreme degree. It seems that they give too much power to carnality by overcompensation. Imho you can give it power either way: by too much attention or too little attention.

Rumi's poem:

Fasting

There's hidden sweetness in the stomach's emptiness.
We are lutes, no more, no less. If the soundbox
is stuffed full of anything, no music.
If the brain and belly are burning clean
with fasting, every moment a new song comes out of the fire.
The fog clears, and new energy makes you
run up the steps in front of you.
Be emptier and cry like reed instruments cry.
Emptier, write secrets with the reed pen.
When you're full of food and drink, Satan sits
where your spirit should, an ugly metal statue
in place of the Kaaba. When you fast,
good habits gather like friends who want to help.
Fasting is Solomon's ring. Don't give it
to some illusion and lose your power,
but even if you have, if you've lost all will and control,
they come back when you fast, like soldiers appearing
out of the ground, pennants flying above them.
A table descends to your tents,
Jesus' table.
Expect to see it, when you fast, this table
spread with other food, better than the broth of cabbages.

(But mostly we give it power by being unaware of it.)
lol
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07-28-2010 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
No
why not? ( sorry for slight derailment, but thats kinda standard here)

first of all atheism seems to try to take down God more than put forth a theory so its difficult pigeon hole them. When I said they believe the universe randomly poped out of nothing for no reason of all, this seems about right as it is fitting with a no God theory.

the second part where I state that atheist believe that we are the result of water dripping off of rocks is refering to the primordial soup theory

after thinking about it a little more, mayb i could add this:

atheism- we hate God, especially the christian one

Last edited by str8 burnt; 07-28-2010 at 04:42 PM.
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07-28-2010 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by str8 burnt
why not? ( sorry for slight derailment, but thats kinda standard here)

first of all atheism seems to try to take down God more than put forth a theory so its difficult pigeon hole them. When I said they believe the universe randomly poped out of nothing for no reason of all, this seems about right as it is fitting with a no God theory.

the second part where I state that atheist believe that we are the result of water dripping off of rocks is refering to the primordial soup theory

after thinking about it a little more, mayb i could add this:

atheism- we hate God, especially the christian one
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...theism-704129/
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07-28-2010 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by str8 burnt

atheism- we do not believe in God, especially the christian one
FYP. You cannot hate what you do not believe exists.
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07-28-2010 , 05:38 PM
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FYP. You cannot hate what you do not believe exists.
Coulda fooled me.
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07-28-2010 , 05:50 PM
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so my addition was spot on (perhaps with a more inflamitory tone), fair enough.

ok i guess my original line is more fitting like this

atheistic darwinism- the universe poped out of nothing for no reason at all and we're all the result of water dripping off rocks
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07-28-2010 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by str8 burnt
atheism- we hate God, especially the christian one

I know i hate the one true God Kukulcan.
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07-28-2010 , 06:21 PM
then again, what other kinds of atheist are there? (other than darwinistic)

the kind that believe aliens deposited all life here? Everlasting aliens that always existed (how did they come into being). Everlasting alien sounds like a God to me.

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07-28-2010 , 06:24 PM
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atheistic darwinism- the universe poped out of nothing for no reason at all and we're all the result of water dripping off rocks
i realize im just feeding the trolls...but the theory of evolution states nothing whatsoever about the beginning of the universe. evolution explains the diversity of life, not the origins of life.
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07-28-2010 , 06:32 PM
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Today, 06:24 PM
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lol. RGT is the most epic of forum fails. i have no idea why i post in here.

sick edit though.
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07-28-2010 , 07:04 PM
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FYP. You cannot hate what you do not believe exists.
Hmmm, I wonder if this is entirely true. I mean, can't we hate fictional characters? In a manner of speaking? I mean, can't I hate Voldemort? (he's not the best evil fictional character, but I can't think of another one right now). I think you get the point. Can it be fair to say that you dislike the character Yahweh, as portrayed in the bible?
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07-28-2010 , 07:10 PM
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so my addition was spot on
No

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atheistic darwinism- the universe poped out of nothing for no reason at all and we're all the result of water dripping off rocks
No

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Originally Posted by str8 burnt
first of all atheism seems to try to take down God
No

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Originally Posted by str8 burnt
the second part where I state that atheist believe that we are the result of water dripping off of rocks is refering to the primordial soup theory
No

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Originally Posted by str8 burnt
atheism- we hate God, especially the christian one
No
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07-28-2010 , 07:21 PM
great response rizeagainst

wtf was that dying actors

i don't know why you bother posting that either. typing fail or level in a post doesn't make it any cooler

yea sometimes I do an insta edit when I see that I can add something or improve upon my post. I dont make another post to just add to my post count and seem cooler either.

such a joke your calling me a troll and you put out that b.s., yea i'm a tard because I had to use the edit feature. seriously wtf

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07-28-2010 , 07:22 PM
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Hmmm, I wonder if this is entirely true. I mean, can't we hate fictional characters? In a manner of speaking? I mean, can't I hate Voldemort? (he's not the best evil fictional character, but I can't think of another one right now). I think you get the point. Can it be fair to say that you dislike the character Yahweh, as portrayed in the bible?
You can hate him but its more like a hypothetical hate.

For me i dislike the character Yahweh but hate would be to strong a word because i just cant get worked up enough over a fictional character to actually hate him. That pretty much gos for any fictional characters. At least i cant think of one i hate.
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07-28-2010 , 07:30 PM
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You can hate him but its more like a hypothetical hate.

For me i dislike the character Yahweh but hate would be to strong a word because i just cant get worked up enough over a fictional character to actually hate him. That pretty much gos for any fictional characters. At least i cant think of one i hate.
Yep, this is basically what I was getting at.
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07-28-2010 , 07:53 PM
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Hmmm, I wonder if this is entirely true. I mean, can't we hate fictional characters? In a manner of speaking? I mean, can't I hate Voldemort? (he's not the best evil fictional character, but I can't think of another one right now). I think you get the point. Can it be fair to say that you dislike the character Yahweh, as portrayed in the bible?
That would be fair to say I guess. However, it was specified that we "hate God" not that we "hate the character 'Yahweh'". It was basically implied that he exists, we know he exists and we hate him.
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07-28-2010 , 07:56 PM
darwinistic atheism- no clue how we got here, and I definitly don't wanna touch that subject, but were surely result of water dripping off of rocks

hows that
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