Could Covid vacination be the Mark of the Beast? - Religion, God, and Theology

Two Plus Two Forums Other Topics Religion, God, and Theology

Could Covid vacination be the Mark of the Beast?

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 1 of 2

1 2

Page 1 of 2

1 2

05-25-2020 , 12:24 AM

Smudger2408

banned

Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 1,922

Could it include stem cells (human flesh)?

Could it deny you entry into banking?

Could it deny you entry on airplanes?

As the Supreme Court stands, they will not force anyone to take the vacination.

That said, as the Supreme Court stands, they will not overturn any corporations ability to deny you entry if you don't take it.

With nano technology, will the COVID 19 vacination be the Mark of the Beast?

Could our eternal soul be at risk if we take this, whenever it comes out? Guessing second wave...

Quote

05-25-2020 , 06:37 PM

rjr777

banned

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 931

Could be..

Scary times if they start forcing it on people and limiting freedoms because of it

Quote

05-26-2020 , 03:33 PM

WateryBoil

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 5,762

since i realized i never actually need to leave the house anymore i dont gaf

Quote

05-27-2020 , 10:02 AM

Smudger2408

banned

Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 1,922

They have already discussed having the Army help distribute any vaccine that comes about of this.

General theory is life can't back to normal without vaccine. You cannot social distance on a subway or a New York elevator when everyone is trying to get to work.

Quote

05-27-2020 , 02:41 PM

WateryBoil

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 5,762

a massive number of people like myself would NEVER get it anyway, a vaccine tbh is totally pointless.

like ive never gotten a flu shot in 20 yrs but also never gotten the flu.

not only that but because the virus mutates so much, a vaccine is beyond worthless.

Quote

05-27-2020 , 02:54 PM

Mrs.RoundGuy

banned

Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 142

Quote:

Originally Posted by WateryBoil

a massive number of people like myself would NEVER get it anyway, a vaccine tbh is totally pointless.

This makes RoundGuy sad. Original Position, can you get RoundGuy unbanned? He's kind of driving me nuts.

Quote

05-27-2020 , 03:04 PM

rileymadison2345

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 354

I don't think it could be the "biblical mark of the beast" if people are tricked into taking it. Isn't that whole thing predicated on people knowing they are going to get it?

Quote

05-28-2020 , 02:08 AM

SwoopAE

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 22,249

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smudger2408

Could it deny you entry into banking?

Could it deny you entry on airplanes?

With nano technology, will the COVID 19 vacination be the Mark of the Beast?

Could our eternal soul be at risk if we take this, whenever it comes out? Guessing second wave...

No to all of the above, lay off the drugs and infowars videos you sound like a crazy person

Quote

05-28-2020 , 06:09 AM

lagtight

banned

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 10,279

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwoopAE

No to all of the above, lay off the drugs and infowars videos you sound like a crazy person

I think the questions are reasonable and worthy of discussion.

The answers to those questions certainly COULD be "Yes".

Quote

05-28-2020 , 12:00 PM

#10

Aaron W.

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 30,132

If the discussion is on "the mark of the beast" then maybe one should begin by trying to identify what that means as both a theological concept and as a historical object.

Then we can determine whether the questions are relevant to the thread title, or whether they are just questions being asked.

I'm very pessimistic towards a lot of interpretations of the Book of Revelation. Many of them feel like such strained readings and interpretations that almost seek to satisfy conspiratorial aspects of human thought, rather than being anything remotely grounded in a pursuit of truth.

Quote

05-28-2020 , 12:32 PM

#11

Smudger2408

banned

Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 1,922

There is no question that colleges, airplanes, banks, stadiums, etc., could require a vaccination before allowing entry.

The nano tracking technology exists.

Part of Mark of the Beast is that people that don't get it are denied access to money and other things.

For those on the conspiracy side of things, see if a vaccination appears just as the second wave hits. The magical elixir that will save us all. If a second wave comes and the only way out of this is vaccination, public opinion will be very high on forcing everyone to take it.

Quote

05-28-2020 , 12:37 PM

#12

Original Position

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,426

Quote:

Originally Posted by WateryBoil

a massive number of people like myself would NEVER get it anyway, a vaccine tbh is totally pointless.

like ive never gotten a flu shot in 20 yrs but also never gotten the flu.

I've never gotten in a car accident, so I should stop driving safely.

Your reasoning here is pretty bad. You've never gotten the flu, thus the flu vaccines is pointless. Do you not realize that other people not only get the flu, but die from it? Every year? Tens of thousands? Do you think these people are somehow different from you so that they are susceptible to the flu and you are naturally able to resist it? You yourself not getting the flu doesn't have much evidentiary value.

Quote:

not only that but because the virus mutates so much, a vaccine is beyond worthless.

A vaccine saves lives. How is that worthless?

Quote

05-28-2020 , 01:01 PM

#13

Original Position

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,426

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smudger2408

Please give your argument for why a vaccine is the Mark of the Beast. It looks to me like you are making this up out of nothing. Here is the passage you are relying on:

Revelation 13:11-18

Quote:

Then I saw another beast that rose out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and it makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound* had been healed. It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in the sight of all; and by the signs that it is allowed to perform on behalf of the beast, it deceives the inhabitants of earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that had been wounded by the sword* and yet lived; and it was allowed to give breath* to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast could even speak and cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell who does not have the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let anyone with understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a person. Its number is six hundred and sixty-six.*

On what basis do you identify this with a potential COVID-19 vaccine? Why not the measles vaccine I got when I was a kid? Why a vaccine at all? After all, I was vaccinated on my upper arm, not my hand or forehead. Also, who is the supposed beast here? And who were the prior two beasts? And how do you know that? Also, why do you prefer the frankly weird and not very persuasive dispensational premillenarianism to the more historically common amillennial views.

Quote

05-28-2020 , 01:12 PM

#14

Aaron W.

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 30,132

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smudger2408

There is no question that colleges, airplanes, banks, stadiums, etc., could require a vaccination before allowing entry.

There's no question that private companies could make decisions based on the health and safety of their clients.

Quote:

Part of Mark of the Beast is that people that don't get it are denied access to money and other things.

Again, please go back to the theology. There are 1.7 billion people who already don't have access to banking institutions. So what's different?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmc.../#4f7427b94b01

Quote

05-28-2020 , 02:22 PM

#15

Smudger2408

banned

Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 1,922

SWOOP AE said I was on drugs for suggesting private companies could reject customers that didn't have the vaccine.

Quote

05-28-2020 , 04:16 PM

#16

Aaron W.

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 30,132

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smudger2408

SWOOP AE said I was on drugs for suggesting private companies could reject customers that didn't have the vaccine.

Stop trying to point the finger elsewhere. Just address the actual questions.

Spoiler:

Quote

05-28-2020 , 06:59 PM

#17

RoundGuy

banned

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 10,247

Last forum I need to say goodbye to.

Smudger, you're in WAY over your head.

See you next time around.
RoundGuy

Quote

06-23-2020 , 05:11 AM

#18

tame_deuces

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 17,817

Quote:

Originally Posted by WateryBoil

People like you are protected by the ones who do get vaccines, which is pretty much the only reason it feels pointless to you. If everyone felt like you did, we would die in enormous numbers.

You can educate yourself and read up on the history of polio and smallpox, and perhaps you will learn why vaccines are anything but useless.

Quote

06-23-2020 , 05:18 AM

#19

tame_deuces

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 17,817

Oh, and the original post in this thread is insane.

There is also the crushing irony of posting on an ad and data-driven website about the potential for "nano-tracking", when something like a 100+ trackers / requests either collected or used information about you as you did it.

If you are worried about being tracked, throw your smartphone in the trash and get a typewriter.

Quote

07-02-2020 , 11:21 AM

#20

1&onlybillyshears

adept

Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 1,160

I'd be interested in evidence showcasing the effectiveness of vaccines. According to my own research they have not been proven to assist in reducing rates of disease, on the contrary vaccines are part of the problem and have caused much harm. In terms of new vaccines, DNA vaccines, this is by definition genetic modification, the injection of foreign DNA into cell nuclei to be reproduced. The mark of the beast is as I understand it a reference to the naming of a Gates associated covid vaccine patent which was related to 666. It was passed off as 'some IT nerd in the office just trolling'. Hmm.

Last edited by 1&onlybillyshears; 07-02-2020 at 11:31 AM.

Quote

07-02-2020 , 11:30 AM

#21

1&onlybillyshears

adept

Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 1,160

Quote:

Originally Posted by tame_deuces

As my daughter said to me, dad there's a big difference in having to wear a face nappy on the bus and having your bank details injected into your arm - referring to trials that started 2 years ago in Sweden where people volunteered to have a microchip inserted into their arm which contained basically everything about them. The danger is that it becomes impossible to live without embracing this stuff. Sure, I have a phone, I don't like it but a lot of things become really difficult without it. But there is always a choice and everyone has their red line. Mine is facial nappies and injection of dangerous substances.

Quote

07-03-2020 , 03:42 PM

#22

LiveMTTDegen

banned

Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 514

everyone will know its the mark of the beast. Whether its a vaccine who knows.

Quote

07-03-2020 , 03:48 PM

#23

LiveMTTDegen

banned

Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 514

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smudger2408

SWOOP AE said I was on drugs for suggesting private companies could reject customers that didn't have the vaccine.

He will be on drugs when he takes the vaccine.

Quote

07-07-2020 , 11:07 AM

#24

lagtight

banned

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 10,279

Vaccines fine only if not compulsory, in my opinion.

Quote

07-07-2020 , 01:09 PM

#25

UsernameTaken

banned

Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 322

Why even vaccinate at all. Why even have hospitals, just pray to skydaddy and if you die, it was his will.

Quote

Page 1 of 2

First

1 2

Last

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 1 of 2

First

1 2

Last