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I recommend you stop acting like a pretender and look up what a Christian's obligation is to other Christians. If you're a Christian that is and not some new New Age philosophy follower.

Are you saying people shouldn't emulate Christians? And if they try, they should give up at the first adversity? Do you think Kobe Bryant gave up when he missed 3 free throws in a row? I recommend you be like Mike was when Kobe was coming up.

Grace is like a trebuchet.> It takes alot of practice to build one and to get it to work right. Do you think they built the first trebuchet and it worked perfectly on the first shot? I doubt it!

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07-12-2012 , 04:12 PM

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****** also means stunted growth.
Don't you think that stunted growth is a thing to be concerned about?

I recommend that you read the book of Jonah. Didn't God prepare a whale for Jonah? Don't whales and fish live in the same waters? (ballasts are often used in water>

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07-12-2012 , 04:17 PM

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An original is always worth more than a copy.

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There is no monument dedicated to the memory of a committee.

>We aren't on a committee here, Splendour.

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07-12-2012 , 04:22 PM

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(x) ignore

An original is always worth more than a copy.

The word splendour is chiefly a British variant of splendor. Since your name is a copy are you not worth more than the British?

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07-12-2012 , 04:32 PM

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The word splendour is chiefly a British variant of splendor. Since your name is a copy are you not worth more than the British?

Since when was a variant spelling a copy? Did British English precede the American dialect or not?

Nm.

Online is a fantasy world.

The bible is a book about reality.

You can't discuss reality in a fantasy world with precocious children.

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07-12-2012 , 04:40 PM

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The bible is a book about reality. Reality is like a reel with an "I" and a "TY". So I need to say "TY" (thank you) so Jesus can "reel" me in. You catch fish with a reel. Jesus is a fisherman, isn't he? Don't fishermen use lures before they net you?

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You didn't even look at the link I gave you about trebuchets, did you? Do you think they made the first one ever and then copied it? No, the first one didn't work. And so they didn't copy that one, they refined it and refined it until it worked. And then when they got a trebuchet that worked, they refined it so it worked better. If you don't know what refinement is, look up this> study on refined sugar.

Isa 48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver;

I recommend that you go for the gold, not the silver.

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So much win in this thread.

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Damn, I already used by "A+" earlier.

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I know in terms of Christianity the term "Universalism" is so frequently frowned upon. But do any theists think that possibly everyone's God leads to the same deity/greater power? What you and I might consider God the father is equivalent to Allah, Jehovah, or any other deity. For instance Islam believes that we both share the same God (father = Allah). Nor do they deny the existence of Jesus entirely. They look at him as a prophet sent by God, not the son of God. I realize that thought alone makes many Christans restless and cause them to throw their hands up and scream. But I seriously have a hard time believing God's creation could be destined to eternal torture at times. Or could they possibly get another chance some way or another? Any theists thoughts on the hell doctrine? It seems hard for me to believe at times people who live in tribes in other parts of the world that are never introduced to Christianity are destined to hell. I know there is no way to answer this surely, but I am just opening this to opinions and ideas.

Thoughts anyone?

Only the blood of Jesus has the power to make our repentance adequate. He died to destroy Satan who had power over flesh (see Hebrews 2:14-15) and to rescue those with a fear of dying.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+2&version=CEV

Maybe searching other faiths leads to confusion.

Would you prefer confusion or salvation?

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Personally, I would prefer evidence. Got any?

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Philippians 3:17-21
17Brothers and sisters, join in imitating me, and observe those who live according to the example you have in us. 18For many live as enemies of the cross of Christ; I have often told you of them, and now I tell you even with tears. 19Their end is destruction; their god is the belly; and their glory is in their shame; their minds are set on earthly things. 20But our citizenship is in heaven, and it is from there that we are expecting a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. 21He will transform the body of our humiliation that it may be conformed to the body of his glory, by the power that also enables him to make all things subject to himself.

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“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule.”
― The Lord of the Rings

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Only the blood of Jesus has the power to make our repentance adequate. He died to destroy Satan who had power over flesh (see Hebrews 2:14-15) and to rescue those with a fear of dying.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+2&version=CEV

Maybe searching other faiths leads to confusion.

Would you prefer confusion or salvation?

Cool! A brand new Christian poster. Welcome!

This could be a breath of fresh air in RGT. We've had a couple of Christians lately that, well, have allowed their minds to go a little loopy. BUT, no sense in you getting involved in all that. Stay the course, right?

Brother, I wonder if you'd be so kind as to elaborate a little on the bolded parts of your quote?

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07-12-2012 , 07:37 PM

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I'm not searching for any other faith at all. I am not confused. Im content and believe in my faith. I am just open to the idea that it is impossible for us to know and understand everything. I'm not quick to think everyone who doesn't believe in what I do is condemned to hell. Wondering and exploring ideas does not rob me of my salvation.

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So much win in this thread.

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07-12-2012 , 10:38 PM

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Show your evidence. Find the scientific paper indicating any relationship between psychological trauma and atheism. You can't do it. It is empty speculation of the worst kind.

I learned to speculate this way from atheists.

My first week or two posting in SMP atheists were the first ones to mention the words "delusion" and "cognitive dissonance". So many atheists seem to play armchair psychologist that it seems to be a critical component of their atheistic beliefs to attach psychological valuations to believers.

But when you do that it opens the atheist mindset up to consideration by the other side as well.

There also seems to be quite a lot to be said for the cognitive upside of faith. There are many, many experts that explain that spirituality is a valuable and beneficial component for human beings.

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07-12-2012 , 10:48 PM

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So what you decided to do in response was to speculate about the psychological traumas of atheists? What is this, a schoolyard?

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07-12-2012 , 10:55 PM

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So what you decided to do in response was to speculate about the psychological traumas of atheists? What is this, a schoolyard?

No, it's an interesting sometimes provocative question that naturally arises from the false claim atheists continuously make.

If someone's going to speculate aloud about your mental state then you're going to start to investigate things.

So far I've turned up that the psychological community as a whole doesn't classify faith as a delusion.

So why are atheists constantly projecting it as one? They don't have the experts behind them so why are they doing it?

In fact a lot of experts like Cloninger, Curt Thompson, etc. who are licensed psychiatrists are in favor of the positive aspects of faith/spirituality.

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No, it's an interesting sometimes provocative question that naturally arises from the false claim atheists continuously make.

If someone's going to speculate aloud about your mental state then you're going to start to investigate things.

So far I've turned up that the psychological community as a whole doesn't classify faith as a delusion.

So why are atheists constantly projecting it as one? They don't have the experts behind them so why are they doing it?

In fact a lot of experts like Cloninger, Curt Thompson, etc. who are licensed psychiatrists are in favor of the positive aspects of faith/spirituality.

Not as a medical term, no.

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07-12-2012 , 11:18 PM

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Not as a medical term, no.

Not worth arguing over with armchair psychologists since atheist rhetoric has obviously focused on outward events instead of the inner being.

They reason from cherrypicked historical events to the inner person instead of from the human psyche outwards and in their anxiety to pass a verdict on their "belief opposites" they seem to ignore personality integration almost entirely.

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I'm not sure, is this a level post, or not?

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07-12-2012 , 11:24 PM

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I'm not sure, is this a level post, or not?

This is not a level.

Did you ever see anyone fixate more negativistically on any piece of religious history than atheists do?

Then emphasis on then, they proceed to build their own psychology of religion theory and pass it off like it's official.

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Did you ever see anyone fixate more negativistically on any piece of religious history than atheists do?

Then emphasis on then, they proceed to build their own psychology of religion theory and pass it off like it's official.

You mean like how you do with Stalin and the communist regime?

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