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12-25-2010 , 07:27 PM
http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147500421

The comments on that are awesome. I dont think ive ever seen that before where the comments one after another all the way down rail against the blogger
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12-25-2010 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MelchyBeau
Yea, he has said some crazy ****. He also said the Medal of Honor is now worthless because some guy got it for saving a bunch of lives.
Never heard of Fischer. Who is he?
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12-25-2010 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by la6ki
Wasn't Bryan Fischer the guy who was explaining how straight Nazi soldiers were just not vicious enough to execute Hitler's most cruel operations and that is why Hitler used gay soldiers for those operations?

I feel sorry for anybody who takes what he says seriously (and anything the American Family Association says for that matter).
Per his wiki he might be a match.

I'd read somewhere that Ernest Rohm the head of Hitler's SA was gay. I didn't realize til I looked Fischer up and clicked on German historian Lothar Machtan that Dietrich Eckhart and Ernst Hanfstaengl were also gay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar_Machtan

Not that it matters much unless you think like Hopey in his posts above. Its much better to deal with individuals as individuals than to assess them by group label stereotypes.

Still what does Fischer's opinions have to do with the thread incident: the Fed Reserve trying to cow a private bank's social interactions when their concern is suppose to be monetary policies?
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12-25-2010 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Never heard of Fischer. Who is he?
He is the guy in the video you posted. Overall, he is a sorry excuse for a human being.

He has advocated preventing muslims from worshiping in the US.

Believes american families should be required to have at least 3 children.

States that muslims should not serve in the Military

Stated gay sex is domestic terrorism

Stated the following
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It is fundamentally immoral and pernicious, and puts homosexuals in the same category (according to 1 Timothy) as those who assault their parents, commit murder, are sexually promiscuous, engage in the slave trade, and lie under oath. 1 Corinthians adds adulterers, substance abusers, thieves and swindlers to the list to which homosexuals belong.
A few other things he has stated

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- I have in fact proposed that homosexual behavior once again be made against the law.

- I have in fact suggested the same sanctions be imposed on homosexual conduct that are imposed on intravenous drug abuse.

- Adolph Hitler did in fact surround himself with homosexual thugs.

- I have in fact suggested that Muslims should be ineligible for military service.

- I have in fact suggested severe restrictions on Muslim immigration into the United States.
http://action.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147495192

He has also called for the deportation of all muslims
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12-25-2010 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MelchyBeau
He is the guy in the video you posted. Overall, he is a sorry excuse for a human being.

He has advocated preventing muslims from worshiping in the US.

Believes american families should be required to have at least 3 children.

States that muslims should not serve in the Military

Stated gay sex is domestic terrorism

Stated the following


A few other things he has stated



http://action.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147495192

He has also called for the deportation of all muslims

He isn't the subject of the thread and none of the above is in the video I linked.

Too bad you can't debate the topic but prefer derailing the thread.

Whether it was the Black Panthers, the Daughters of the American Revolution, the Atheists of American Atheists, etc....the announcer of the group doesn't matter.

The issue under discussion is the Fed going into a privately owned bank and trying to coerce the actions of a group of private citizens.
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12-25-2010 , 08:02 PM
Lol Splendour, will you ever not take anything you read as true fact?

There is no strong evidence that any of them were gay. Its mostly speculation with the rest being circumstancial.

There were gay Nazi leaders, i mean its just pure statistics, however there are no first hand accounts of any Nazis of note being gay.
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12-25-2010 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
He isn't the subject of the thread and none of the above is in the video I linked.

Too bad you can't debate the topic but prefer derailing the thread.

Whether it was the Black Panthers, the Daughters of the American Revolution, the Atheists of American Atheists, etc....the announcer of the group doesn't matter.

The issue under discussion is the Fed going into a privately owned bank and trying to coerce the actions of a group of private citizens.
You asked who he was. I didn't bring him up.
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12-25-2010 , 08:04 PM
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The issue under discussion is the Fed going into a privately owned bank and trying to coerce the actions of a group of private citizens.
That thread is over. They went in because they thought they were breaking the law, they checked, they werent, nothing happened.
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12-25-2010 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MelchyBeau
You asked who he was. I didn't bring him up.
I forgot...oops.
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12-25-2010 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Lol Splendour, will you ever not take anything you read as true fact?

There is no strong evidence that any of them were gay. Its mostly speculation with the rest being circumstancial.

There were gay Nazi leaders, i mean its just pure statistics, however there are no first hand accounts of any Nazis of note being gay.
O rly?

Why is what I read any less reliable than what you read?

That Hitler was gay is the subject of much debate. But Rohm being gay seems pretty much a historical fact. A Social Democratic newspaper had some of Rohm's letters discussing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm
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12-25-2010 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Lol Splendour, will you ever not take anything you read as true fact?

There is no strong evidence that any of them were gay. Its mostly speculation with the rest being circumstancial.

There were gay Nazi leaders, i mean its just pure statistics, however there are no first hand accounts of any Nazis of note being gay.
O rly?

Why is what I read any less reliable than what you read?

That Hitler was gay is the subject of much debate. But Rohm being gay seems pretty much a historical fact. A Social Democratic newspaper published some of Rohm's letters discussing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm
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12-25-2010 , 08:14 PM
Time to do an OrP and go on vacation...sayonara thread...maybe I'll revisit later...tc everyone!
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12-25-2010 , 09:17 PM
Good stuff.
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12-25-2010 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Good stuff.
Lol. (assuming that is just a general comment about the thread)

Also, the fed reserve is not government institution, so separation of church and state does not apply.
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12-25-2010 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
Also, the fed reserve is not government institution, so separation of church and state does not apply.
Incorrect. Its actions are not subject to ratification by any of the major government entities, but its authority ultimately derives from Congress. It is very much a government institution.
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12-25-2010 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
O rly?

Why is what I read any less reliable than what you read?

That Hitler was gay is the subject of much debate. But Rohm being gay seems pretty much a historical fact. A Social Democratic newspaper had some of Rohm's letters discussing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm
Yes, Rohm was gay. And then Hitler had him executed. What is your point?
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12-25-2010 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
Lol. (assuming that is just a general comment about the thread)

Also, the fed reserve is not government institution, so separation of church and state does not apply.
ORLY?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_reserve

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According to the Board of Governors, the Federal Reserve is independent within government in the sense that "its decisions do not have to be ratified by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branch of government." However, its authority is derived from the U.S. Congress and is subject to congressional oversight. Additionally, the members of the Board of Governors, including its chairman and vice-chairman, are chosen by the President and confirmed by Congress. The government also exercises some control over the Federal Reserve by appointing and setting the salaries of the system's highest-level employees. Thus the Federal Reserve has both private and public aspects.[11] The U.S. Government receives all of the system's annual profits, after a statutory dividend of 6% on member banks' capital investment is paid, and an account surplus is maintained. The Federal Reserve transferred a record amount of $45 billion to the U.S. Treasury in 2009.
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12-26-2010 , 03:00 AM
And as was already pointed out, this was never a separation of church and state issue.
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12-26-2010 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MelchyBeau
Yea, he has said some crazy ****. He also said the Medal of Honor is now worthless because some guy got it for saving a bunch of lives.
LOL...as usual everyone reads too much into my links. I came across the bank story on a blog then I came across a youtube video with the local news channel which was too short a clip to post in the OP so I found a longer clip where people were speaking more on it.

News is news whoever happens to be spouting it.

A very interesting link was right beside it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNVNhB-m0o
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12-26-2010 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
And as was already pointed out, this was never a separation of church and state issue.
Uh except that some small fry in the Fed were acting like it was until the bank checked into it further.

It was a bungled attempt by some people in the Federal Reserve at what they thought was a separation of church and state issue so your statement above is inaccurate.
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12-26-2010 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
LOL...as usual everyone reads too much into my links. I came across the bank story on a blog then I came across a youtube video with the local news channel which was too short a clip to post in the OP so I found a longer clip where people were speaking more on it.

News is news whoever happens to be spouting it.

A very interesting link was right beside it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNVNhB-m0o
Why do you keep going after my posts? Again, I didn't bring up Fischer.
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12-26-2010 , 12:33 PM
watched the first few seconds and sure enough, the first thing out of his mouth: "there's a war on christmas".
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12-26-2010 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
LOL...as usual everyone reads too much into my links. I came across the bank story on a blog then I came across a youtube video with the local news channel which was too short a clip to post in the OP so I found a longer clip where people were speaking more on it.

News is news whoever happens to be spouting it.

A very interesting link was right beside it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNVNhB-m0o
Lol, as usual everyone reads the correct amount into Splendours links, finds they are from a dubious source and she backs away from them.

Whenever i post something for discussion the first thing i make sure is i have at least one unbiased source, preferably two. You run along to find the first thing you can regardless of the content.

When you post a youtube clip of an ultra hardcore major rightwing assbag you invite criticism for the very fact what he says is tainted by who he is. Looking for the longest clip is flawed, you should look for the best clip which is usually going to be a major or local news channel or even a link to an article by them is best.

Dont worry about proving the event existed, people will fact check this stuff for you, as was done in this thread leading to the revelation it may have been an infringement of the Lending Act and that it turned out on review they didnt break the law so were fine. However for the love of baby Santa please stop posting links you refuse to stand by when they get criticised. Fact check your own links, this forum is not your blog and you more than anyone is inviting people to fact check them for you just to show how flawed they are. And they always are.

Btw i just tapped into the search box approx what you would have searched for and all the top links are from the hate group American Family Association or from Info Wars which seems better only because of how terrible AFA is. You really should have fact checked this entire story better given how much wood people like Bill O'Reilly gets over the "war on Xmas". Its at times like this im either looking for a credible article to go with or just not posting the story.
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12-26-2010 , 05:33 PM
Gays in SS = evil, ldo

mustaches (Hitler, Stalin) = evil, ldo

Not sure where to put Mussolini. Maybe he was gay.
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12-26-2010 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Uh except that some small fry in the Fed were acting like it was until the bank checked into it further.

It was a bungled attempt by some people in the Federal Reserve at what they thought was a separation of church and state issue so your statement above is inaccurate.
Um, no. Read the link you yourself provided:

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Originally Posted by Splendour
What the local paper reported on it:

Federal Reserve tried to steal Christmas by David Sasser of The Journal
http://www.thejournalok.com/atf.php?...ion=2010-12-23
As already quoted by Hopey:
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The examiners told the banks officers that they believed the symbols violated the discouragement clause of Regulation B of the fair lending act, stating, “...the use of words, symbols, models and other forms of communication ... express, imply or suggest a discriminatory preference or policy of exclusion.” In other words, a non-Christian seeing the items might be discouraged from applying for credit at the bank.
So again, to be clear, based on information you provided to the forum, the Federal Reserve officials never thought this was a separation of church and state issue. It was strictly an issue of the fair lending act.
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