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Originally Posted by dereds
Given the majority of players that play poker lose money I don't see how it would be sustained if they weren't enjoying it or found it recreational, personally I went from being a backed mtt player where poker wasn't fun and was serious business to a recreational player who will register for a dozen tournaments 2/3 times a year and enjoy the challenge without regard for the money I play with. Sure I'm playing for a chance to bink something but without an expectation I'll bink it.
Do people enjoy losing and find it fun? Do players that lose, but still find it fun suffer from some kind of problem like Dunning Kruger, or some psychological compulsion that you're in fact taking advantage of?
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Originally Posted by dereds
When you play are you playing for fun?
I'm playing for the fun of being better at it than other people, and winning, so I don't enjoy losing. In fact, the pressure I put on myself to be better stops it being fun, I don't play anywhere near as much as I used to. I was finding it too stressful.
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Originally Posted by dereds
To answer the first question I'd say yes good done by donating money can offset the harm done by taking it from someone. Firstly there is the view that the harm done to a degenerate gambler is over determined. If you don't take his money his money will still be taken by another. In order to have a better outcome then you only need donate more than the average poker professional donates all other things being equal.
Isn't it better to not do the harm in the first place? I don't think a rule of 'if I do bad, I have to do equal good' would really work, there are bad things that would soon cause it to break.
I don't find the 'if you don't take it someone else will' to be at all a satisfactory defence. Taking money from degenerate gamblers is not a good thing, you should be a person who doesn't do it, and that would be being the change that you want to see in the world.
(I'm just arguing this out btw, I personally have no problem taking money off people at poker, I wish I was better at it)